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Offline Sitedrifter

GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« on: December 04, 2017, 06:24:54 PM »
I have been reading a lot about this pedal and found (so far) the best tip was to calibrate it.
My Reverend was super hot and I have the input level now down to -13 (was 0) and what a difference it has made.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2017, 06:33:12 PM by Sitedrifter »

Offline alfstone

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 06:51:10 AM »
Any more details about?

I can see threads about GT-100 calibrating input level, but they have to do with the expression pedal and the light turning on when hard strumming, but with the GT-001???

Alfredo


Online admsustainiac

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 07:07:53 AM »
Any more details about?

I can see threads about GT-100 calibrating input level, but they have to do with the expression pedal and the light turning on when hard strumming, but with the GT-001???

Alfredo

Use advanced Search
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2978.0

More details here:

GT100- Guitar Input Level
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=12822.0
Gumtown wrote
Attached below is a calibration patch to set the input level (due to the lack of metering), set the input level so the EXP pedal led is just peaking on.
The GT-100 won't clip with high input levels, but it does compress beyond a certain point, making the preamps less responsive to volume change on the guitar.

An average passive humbucker input level setting sits around -7dB

You load the patch into the GT.
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12822.0;attach=10471
Then with hard picking on the guitar, adjust the system setting for "guitar input level" until the EXP pedal switch light is only just peaking 'on'.

Typically a hot output/humbucker guitar will require the input level reduced down around the -12dB to -8dB range.



Dont forget the VG-99, GR-55, and GP-10, GT-1  all have "Normal PU Input Level controls as well
« Last Edit: December 05, 2017, 07:20:42 AM by Elantric »

Offline alfstone

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 07:45:53 AM »
OK, but in the GT-001 there is no peak led at all, and the same in my expression pedal (Roland EV-5), so....?????

Alfredo

Offline Elantric

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 09:35:52 AM »
OK, but in the GT-001 there is no peak led at all, and the same in my expression pedal (Roland EV-5), so....?????

Alfredo

We use our ears


Luckily we know for the electric guitar, the GT-001 shares same electronic signal flow as GT-100


An average passive humbucker input level setting sits around -7dB

Typically a hot output/humbucker guitar will require the input level reduced down around the -12dB to -8dB range.
 
« Last Edit: December 05, 2017, 09:38:19 AM by Elantric »

Offline gumtown

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 03:43:21 PM »
The level setting peak led patch for the GT-100 uses the assign "input level" detection to sense the input level and switch "on" the EXP led at a specific threshold.
The same could apply to the GT-001 if there were another assignable option which is visual on the GT-001 LCD display,
 such as channel switching or effect on/off.
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Offline alfstone

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 03:58:01 PM »

An average passive humbucker input level setting sits around -7dB

Typically a hot output/humbucker guitar will require the input level reduced down around the -12dB to -8dB range.

Thanks, I didn't know...

and what setting do you think is best for a single coil?

Alfredo

Offline gumtown

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 04:02:42 PM »
Single coil (passive) typically -3
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Offline Sitedrifter

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 05:00:32 PM »
I have a hot humbucker and also a hot P90. The P90 can run around -5 but the humbucker needs -13

For the GT001, when you are looking at the software with the proper patch (I named it Calibrate) loaded, watch the PDL pedal icon. It will flash red when you are clipping.

Offline Sitedrifter

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 11:12:17 AM »
OK, but in the GT-001 there is no peak led at all, and the same in my expression pedal (Roland EV-5), so....?????

Alfredo

For the GT001, when you are looking at the software with the proper patch (I named it Calibrate) loaded, watch the PDL pedal icon. It will flash red when you are clipping.

Offline mooncaine

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 04:15:08 PM »
Can a similar trick be used to trim input level on a GT-1?

Offline Elantric

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2017, 04:36:36 PM »
Correct

For normal pickups, the same control exists in GP-10, VG-99, GR-55, GT-1, MS-3, GT-001, GT-100


Here is the Boss GP-10 Normal PU Input Level control in BTS

« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 07:08:19 PM by Elantric »

Offline alfstone

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2017, 04:46:01 PM »
For the GT001, when you are looking at the software with the proper patch (I named it Calibrate) loaded, watch the PDL pedal icon. It will flash red when you are clipping.

Many, many thanks!
I couldn't imagine such a great improvement. I have reduced the input level to -8.
I've made this change on the GT-001 unit. Am I wrong, or there is no such "virtual knob" for the input level  in the software?

Alfredo

Offline Sitedrifter

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2017, 06:24:42 PM »
Many, many thanks!
I couldn't imagine such a great improvement. I have reduced the input level to -8.
I've made this change on the GT-001 unit. Am I wrong, or there is no such "virtual knob" for the input level  in the software?

Alfredo

No such setting in the software but since it is easy to get to in the hardware, no issue for me. Enjoy your new found feature that works wonders.

Offline Elantric

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2017, 07:12:09 PM »
No such setting in the software but since it is easy to get to in the hardware, no issue for me. Enjoy your new found feature that works wonders.

Actually this "Guitar Input Level  control does exist in Boss Tone Studio for GT ( GT-100 / GT-001)

Click in the INPUT block







Here is Guitar Input Level on GR-55 (Normal PU Gain)


AND


Here is Guitar Input Level on VG-99 (Normal PU Gain)

« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 07:48:36 PM by Elantric »

Offline Sitedrifter

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2017, 04:09:04 AM »
Actually this "Guitar Input Level  control does exist in Boss Tone Studio for GT ( GT-100 / GT-001)

Click in the INPUT block


Thanks so much. I should learn that this software is more feature rich than I have imagined.

Offline chappi

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2017, 01:00:06 PM »
My Reverend was super hot

Which Reverend do you have ?

Offline Sitedrifter

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2017, 03:19:06 PM »
Which Reverend do you have ?

Reverend 20th anniversary double agent. P90 neck and Rail Hammer Humbucker for the bridge.

Offline chappi

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2017, 06:12:42 PM »
Reverend 20th anniversary double agent

Nice. I've got an RG2. Thanks for this tip I'll be looking at it on the GP-10.

Offline pelaomedinaese

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2017, 07:13:20 PM »
sorry for change the thread theme but , is there a sound difference between gt-1 and gt-001? i read comment in anothe forum that there's a notable difference

Online admsustainiac

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2017, 08:03:25 PM »
When comparing 2014 GT-001  to the 2016 GT-1 for the same COSM Amp models , I find the GT-1 to be slightly more refined and articulate.

Roland improves their DSP algorithms all the time

A  large number of folks see the available array of amplifier types and see the identical names that were on the 1995 Boss GT 5 and assume it's the identical sounds and identical processing.

 I can tell you it's not the same at all. there is Major Improvement on the latest Generation Roland/ Boss products.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2017, 08:57:58 PM by admsustainiac »

Offline pelaomedinaese

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2017, 10:49:16 PM »
When comparing 2014 GT-001  to the 2016 GT-1 for the same COSM Amp models , I find the GT-1 to be slightly more refined and articulate.

Roland improves their DSP algorithms all the time

A  large number of folks see the available array of amplifier types and see the identical names that were on the 1995 Boss GT 5 and assume it's the identical sounds and identical processing.

 I can tell you it's not the same at all. there is Major Improvement on the latest Generation Roland/ Boss products.

i ask that because i have a chance to exchange my gt-1 for a gt-001 and i want the gt-001 for the advanced featues in comparison with gt-1

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Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 02:23:34 AM »
When comparing 2014 GT-001  to the 2016 GT-1 for the same COSM Amp models , I find the GT-1 to be slightly more refined and articulate.

Roland improves their DSP algorithms all the time

A  large number of folks see the available array of amplifier types and see the identical names that were on the 1995 Boss GT 5 and assume it's the identical sounds and identical processing.

 I can tell you it's not the same at all. there is Major Improvement on the latest Generation Roland/ Boss products.

+1, I won't claim to be objective, but my ears hear an improvement on the modeled guitars and tunings, especially 12-string, in th GP-10 over the GR-55.
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Offline Bill Ruppert

Re: GT-001 - Best tip yet! ( Must calibrate INPUT LEVEL)
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 12:39:02 PM »
The GT-001 has the same sound as the GP-10 BUT with way more control in the amp section.
It has the extra control like the VG-99 but with better dynamics.
I dont think the GT-1 has the custom cab parameters as well as other tone shape available in the GT-001.
The GT-001 is like the VG-99. It was overlooked by everyone.
Wonderful tiny box with  massive amounts of power.

 

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