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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #525 on: November 04, 2017, 05:07:40 PM »
Any possibilities for expanding avaialable Control Assignments via MIDI CC# for remote MIDI control of GT FX ?
No further than the MIDX bridge CC#'s will allow control of all effects, slots, etc. and parameters therein.

I have seen no evidence of built-in support for external MIDI assigns. It seems all stuff has to be created using SysEx...using BTS look-alike commands.

Just got the Delay and FX1 and FX2 to verify... and then I'm done. Rest of the chain verified. Verification means sending a CC# and watching the knob turn in the unit. So easy when the device has a display...
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #526 on: November 05, 2017, 11:29:56 AM »


I suspect the next unit that screams for your MIDX-20 programming  / code snooping efforts will be the Boss MS-3


Why? - because the MS-3 has loads of  Boss Effects - but no easy method to control them  - no MIDI Input ( lame)


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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #527 on: November 05, 2017, 03:32:15 PM »
I suspect the next unit that screams for your MIDX-20 programming  / code snooping efforts will be the Boss MS-3

Why? - because the MS-3 has loads of  Boss Effects - but no easy method to control them  - no MIDI Input ( lame)

We'll see...I don't own a MS-3...yet.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #528 on: November 05, 2017, 03:38:43 PM »
With the GT-1 I just have the FX2 block left to verify. FX1 is ok now.
FX2 contains the same things but at other addresses.

I did found out that the OD/DS have a working SOLO switch and SOLO level corresponding to GT-100.

I also will add CC# for tap tempo. Of course for the delay,
but maybe other effects may benefit from tap tempo?
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #529 on: November 05, 2017, 04:09:18 PM »
With the GT-1 I just have the FX2 block left to verify. FX1 is ok now.
FX2 contains the same things but at other addresses.

I did found out that the OD/DS have a working SOLO switch and SOLO level corresponding to GT-100.

I also will add CC# for tap tempo. Of course for the delay,
but maybe other effects may benefit from tap tempo?

I like products  where Tap tempo applies to Modulation LFO ( Tremolo)
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #530 on: November 06, 2017, 09:26:00 PM »
I like products  where Tap tempo applies to Modulation LFO ( Tremolo)

Thanks to the great implementation of BPM in GT-1 all of this can be controlled by MIDX-20 Tap Tempo
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #531 on: November 06, 2017, 09:45:29 PM »
MIDX-20 GT-1 MIDI Bridge is finalized and available now.
http://primovasound.com/midx_20_page2.html
MIDI Implementation here: http://www.primovasound.com/pdf/MIDX_20_GT1.pdf











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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #532 on: November 06, 2017, 09:47:18 PM »
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #534 on: November 07, 2017, 05:42:45 PM »
Great work -

I'll tell the world
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/25193319/

Thank you Steve , today's been a haze, stopped working with this 05:00 in the morning, after 11 hours in a row after 7 hours regular work :P Yup, it's not normal at all. But I feel great it's done and looking forward to the next challenge...whatever it is  ;D
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #535 on: November 07, 2017, 05:50:01 PM »
Thank you Steve , today's been a haze, stopped working with this 05:00 in the morning, after 11 hours in a row after 7 hours regular work :P Yup, it's not normal at all. But I feel great it's done and looking forward to the next challenge...whatever it is  ;D

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/boss-katana-amplifiers.1744135/page-590

Of course today I get a warning from The Gear Page moderator that wanted to know who's paying me, says:   - " we have received complaints"  - since they consider me just a paid marketing shill

I'll take a vacation from that site for a while ( too many gatekeepers over there that are annoyed with me.

Glad I'm age 62, because this world frowns on sharing knowledge that conflicts with the official dumbed down narrative. 

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and I see Fender Forum already removed my Fender Mustang MIDX-20 post  - ( really sorry I recommended you to pursue that wasted effort, as I thought your effort of creating working 5 pin MIDI I/O box for Mustang Amps would yield more positive interest,  - but it appears Mustang Owners prefer to remain stuck in their bedroom with their buggy 4 button foot controller or a buggy Android app ( Remuda)   

This lone MIDX-20 post remains
http://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=105436
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #536 on: November 07, 2017, 11:34:39 PM »
Sounds like someone I've discussed with and his best argument for not using a seaparate device to control SYSEX: "It's not how they intended you to use their products. It's cheating and I hate cheaters."
This was after a concert I did back in November -16 when I used the GP-10, MIDX-20 and a Behringer BCR2000 to tweak things live. He also asked for that black thing between the bridge pickup and the bridge. When I told him that it was for sending 6 independent signal paths to my GP-10, which was responsible of creating that "fat and rich sound" (his statement), I was caught double "cheating". He was clearly trying to convince someone that a TUBE-amp must have made that sound.



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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #537 on: November 08, 2017, 07:10:40 AM »
and I see Fender Forum already removed my Fender Mustang MIDX-20 post  - ( really sorry I recommended you to pursue that wasted effort, as I thought your effort of creating working 5 pin MIDI I/O box for Mustang Amps would yield more positive interest,  - but it appears Mustang Owners prefer to remain stuck in their bedroom with their buggy 4 button foot controller or a buggy Android app ( Remuda)   

This lone MIDX-20 post remains
http://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=105436

I'm surprised at how little interest there's been in my Mustang bridge software.  One, perhaps two users that I know of.  <shrug..>


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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #538 on: November 08, 2017, 08:22:51 AM »
I'm surprised at how little interest there's been in my Mustang bridge software.  One, perhaps two users that I know of.  <shrug..>

It is still on my to do list for the VController, though it probably is just a lot of work with little interest of users. The Mustang is my son's. I should probably have it swapped for a Katana. That would make a nice Christmas present...

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #539 on: November 10, 2017, 05:59:28 PM »
Any soul tried the GT-1 Bridge? All these weeks in vain?
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« Reply #540 on: November 12, 2017, 12:58:46 AM »
I would but I've got a -10, not a -20. Don't think I'd be able to help with that.

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #541 on: November 15, 2017, 04:53:33 PM »
Spent tonight with the SoftStep2 (USB MIDI controller) controlling the Boss GT-1 using the MIDX-20 GT-1 MIDI Bridge.
It's great fun and working really well. You don't need many patches in the GT-1 as you may change Preamps and Effects, turn everything individually on/off, tap tempo etc. using MIDI.

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« Reply #542 on: November 17, 2017, 03:38:09 PM »
May get a GT1 just to keep as a backup.

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #543 on: November 17, 2017, 03:56:49 PM »
May get a GT1 just to keep as a backup.
Problem is I find the things in GP-10 and Katana itself overall sounding better. I know it's the same bread an butter, but still...the pitch shift in GT-1 is really sucking wind and is a laugh compared to GP-10 hex processing.

GT-1 Amps and effects other than pitch shifts sounding really ok for that price bin.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #544 on: November 24, 2017, 03:51:33 PM »
Just requested a price for a MS-3 from my favourite Boss dealer...have a bad feeling it’s going to end up in more endless nights squeezing yet another (the last) complete MIDI bridge into the MIDX :P
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #545 on: November 25, 2017, 09:23:43 AM »
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Spent tonight with the SoftStep2

Does the midx20 handle the SS2, without their proprietary USB to midi box?

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #546 on: November 25, 2017, 01:14:22 PM »
Does the midx20 handle the SS2, without their proprietary USB to midi box?
Sure, it works fine. It’s class compliant (I think). And it’s powered by the MIDX USB.
And there’s 5-pin MIDI on the MIDX for connecting other 5-pin gear.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #547 on: November 26, 2017, 05:04:50 AM »
Just ordered a MS-3 at great price, looked at the nitty-gritty and it's pretty straightforward (2 x identical FX) + (2 x identical MOD) + NS+DLY+REV+Master Settings) using same great BPM approach as in GT-1 controlling all time based settings.

I decided there will be a MS-3 Bridge available for the MIDX-20 early next year.
Feels bad not to also include this unit when I cover the rest of the Boss pedals...

I'll probably bundle it with the Katana Bridge, so there will be three firmware options:
A) MIDX-20 Core functionality + Katana Bridge + MS-3 Bridge
B) MIDX-20 Core functionality + Katana Bridge + GT-1 Bridge
C) MIDX-20 Core functionality + Fender Mustang V2 Bridge

Also, it looks like a really useful pedal for my own playing.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #548 on: December 07, 2017, 05:39:07 AM »
Hi all !

Can anyone tell me if the MIDX-20 would work between my Boss GP-10 and a Rocktron Midi raider ?

Thanx a lot

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #549 on: December 07, 2017, 02:48:17 PM »
Hi all !

Can anyone tell me if the MIDX-20 would work between my Boss GP-10 and a Rocktron Midi raider ?

Thanx a lot

I'd say 100% yes.
(However the MIDX-20 only have standard 5-pin MIDI connectors so it can't be powered by the two Rocktron extra pins)
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