iPhone 6 or 4s or 5s or samsung galaxy note 4

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Elantric

#25
QuotePlus the pen on the Note 4 is very cool.

Yes- Its far better integrated on Note 4 - I might actually use it

Ive had a Note 2 for two years and frankly I've  never used the Pen more than 15 minutes in the past 2 years  - because it only works on a limited number of TouchWiz "Pen Enabled" Apps only - never works on third party Android browsers ( Dolphin) or  XScope Pro(my #1 app on Android)   

Meanwhile I await to see what Black Friday Deals arrive on Nov 28

http://www.theblackfriday.com/att-blackfriday.shtml


montyrivers

Quote from: Elantric on October 29, 2014, 07:28:39 AM
T-Mobile Note 4 have a working Wireless Hotspot function - which AT&T has Locked out on All their phones devices until the customer pays extra  - all translates to buying an unlocked  Note 4 at Full Price( $800)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/impressed-lag-t2913186

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/help/using-t-mobile-version-att-t2905139

Similar condition applies to iPhone 6 Plus from AT&T  - to a lesser degree, but it still comes with the AT&T Bloatware, and remains lockd to AT&T Many folks buy Tmobile Hardware but use the AT&T SIM Card and data plan

This is why I still have a galaxy s2 with cyanogen mod on a prepaid carrier.  I refuse to put up with that lockout bullcrap.  I shouldnt have to pay a monthly fee to "unlock" hardware functionality.

Elantric

#28
https://discussions.apple.com/message/27051652?ac_cid=tw123456#27051652
QuoteHere is my case. Bought my IP6 plus 128GB around 20th OCT,2014. I was using Android before, so it's no backup and no restore matter to me. Just setup as a brand new phone but the phone just started keep rebooting more and more recent days. Rebooted 4-5 times last night. I did not install many apps on it. (APPLE said some installed more than 500+ apps cause the issue but not me). I only had around 20 apps so far and one of them is the NBA 2k15.

Every time when i try open app or even calculator. It may crash and reboot. Showing the white screen with apple logo. And it looks like a quick reboot. Seems much faster than normal reboot. Just takes about 5 sec.

Last, my IP6 plus updated to 8.1 already when all this reboot happened and looks more stable to me when i still on 8.0 (at least I do not see crash and reboot before) with all the same apps on it.

Anyway, i will bring in my phone to have it replace but i only bought my phone for less than a month. If i can only replace for a refurbished one. This is not fair to apple fans and customer because this is for sure at either software or hardware faulty. APPLE should take care of it but not let us to bear the risk or cost.

I saw many excuses from APPLE side around internet but my case here is real and just happened recently. No old backup, restore or too much app issues.
All these reasons flowing around but none on my phone.

APPLE, please find the true reason cause this issue but not only telling some excuse or fooling people around. Fix it asap because we paid you real cash. And i don't think people will accept for a refurbished one for a such brand new phone.

http://www.imore.com/128-gb-iphone-6-plus-and-ridiculous-recall-allegations

http://www.imore.com/doubling-down-128-gb-iphone-6-plus-bull


http://www.imore.com/doubling-down-128-gb-iphone-6-plus-bull

Quotehellodon
I have a 128 Plus and the random crashing has been happening to me often the last few days. Just started researching it and found this and many other articles. I'll be using an app...typing...nothing out of the ordinary and all of a sudden the apple logo pops up, and I'm back at the lock screen. At least a dozen times today alone. I'm NOT happy to be reading this when I paid full price for this thing and it's the most expensive model. Even tried backing up and restoring and was about to do a complete factory reset and start fresh loading my apps and content back manually without a backup...but after everything I've been reading, I don't think I'm going to waste my time.
I hope they do replace them. If I hear that they replace the NAND memory with a supposed faster/better NAND in Future production I don't think it would be right or fair to leave current users with problematic/cheaper/slower NAND
This sucks!

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/11/07/apple-stopping-tlc-nand-flash-iphone-6-6-plus/



http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/article/7172/resolution-apple-change-controller-ic-nand-flash-used-iphone-6-iphone-6

Resolution
Apple to Change Controller IC of NAND Flash Used in iPhone 6, iPhone 6+
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7 NOVEMBER 2014
As controversy over the functional defects of the iPhone 6+ have been growing, Apple has decided to stop its use of triple-level cell (TLC) NAND.

According to industry sources on Nov. 6, the U.S. smartphone giant has decided to discontinue its use of triple-level cell (TLC) NAND, since the company believes that the functional defects plaguing the 64GB iPhone 6 and the 128GB iPhone 6+ stem from a problem in the controller IC of the TLC NAND flash. The controller IC in question is reportedly made by SSD maker Anobit, which was sold to Apple in 2011.

TLC NAND flash is a type of solid-state NAND flash memory that stores three bits of data per cell. It can store three times as much data as single-level cell (SLC) that stores one bit of data, and 1.5 times as much as multi-level cell (MLC) solid-state flash memory that stores two bits of data. On top of that, TLC flash is more affordable. However, it is also slower than SLC or MLC in reading and writing data.

As a result, Apple is planning to use MLC NAND flash in the 64GB iPhone 6 and the 128GB iPhone 6+ in the future. The company will reportedly improve products already equipped with TLC NAND by providing the iOS8.1.1 update within the year.

The U.S. tech giant is riding high in Korea, as it already sold 100,000 units of the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+ on the release date (Oct. 31) alone. Some mobile carriers already sold out of 64GB and 128GB models. Additional supplies are expected to be possible as early as this month.

MLC NAND was used in the 16GB version of the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+ and some of the 64GB models, but LC NAND was used in all of the 128GB models. Apple apparently used TLC NAND to reduce costs. Previously, some iPads featured TLC NAND.

Meanwhile, an increasing number of Korean consumers are complaining about functional defects of Apple's latest smartphones. A growing number of the 64GB iPhone 6 users posted in online communities related to the iPhones about their request for product replacements due to slow speeds.

In such a situation, it is getting popular among users to find out whether MLC or TLC NAND was used in the phone through the speed measurement.

On Nov. 3, some overseas IT media sources speculated about the possibility of a potential recall of the iPhone 6+. Sources considered that since technical defects mainly occur in the 128GB version of the iPhone 6+, there might be a problem in the controller IC of triple-level cell (TLC) NAND flash.

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- See more at: http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/article/7172/resolution-apple-change-controller-ic-nand-flash-used-iphone-6-iphone-6#sthash.iQMXdnjb.dpuf



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http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/11/07/rumor-faulty-flash-memory-in-select-iphone-6-6-plus-units-prompts-apple-to-make-switch

http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-switch-faulty-flash-storage-type-iphone-6-iphone-6-plus/

http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/14/11/07/rumor-faulty-flash-memory-in-select-iphone-6-6-plus-units-prompts-apple-to-make-switch

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/183299/rumor-faulty-flash-memory-in-select-iphone-6-6-plus-units-prompts-apple-to-make-switch-u

http://www.imore.com/doubling-down-128-gb-iphone-6-plus-bull
Quotestewm
I treat this story exactly as I treat the bending iPhone stories. With a pinch of salt.

My iPhone 6+ has not bent and it doesn't have any problems except for a single App and since it is just this app that locks up then it is the App and not the phone itself.

I have to assume that where there is one App that has an issue there may be more that have that same issue. Do I lose sleep over such a problem? No! I deal with the issue and work round it and eventually the App writers will fix any issues they have.

In fact if there was an issue with the memory then surely the issue would crop up pretty soon with those people that use their iPhones to record their lives and take many many pictures and video's.

It would not just be those that have lots of App's installed. Since we do not hear of people complaining that the 128GB iPhone 6+ or iPhone 6 has issues when they have filled their device with video and pictures and other files and documents, all using that same Nand Memory it suggests that there may be a bug in iOS that is at the root of the problem rather than a fault in the memory itself.

In fact the thread on Apple support that links to suggestions to this appears to have latched on to the rumor of faulty Nand Memory and not come to that conclusion from a statement from Apple.

Of course if there were a problem with the said memory that was causing a problem then everyone would be suffering from that same problem and it would be millions of complaints.

We all know how easily just a few voices can sound like millions of voices because a complaining voice is as loud an Orchestra while a Happy voice is quieter than a mouse and this issue was something that has not appeared in mainstream media like the bending phone problem and surely it would since mainstream media rely on lots of people viewing/reading their 'gossip' and getting viewer/reader numbers up.

Rene Ritchie is perfectly correct to write something that puts down such an article and even more correct to not reference the article which merely spreads false allegations of a problem and getting more people upset about a problem that is grounded on a story with no foundation material supplied to give substance to the allegations.

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In other news:


http://www.macrumors.com/2014/11/07/gt-advanced-apple-privacy-agreement/

And if you have Scribd - these docs are interesting reading

https://www.scribd.com/9to5Mac

Elantric

Galaxy Note 4 Teardown
http://technews.co/2014/10/13/cost-of-samsung-galaxy-note-4-higher-than-iphone-6-plus-report/#more-23844
The Samsung GALAXY Note 4 hit the Taiwan market on Oct. 9 and TechInsights has completed disassembling the handset and providing a cost analysis.

The processor from the disassembled GALAXY Note 4 is Samsung's Exynos 5433 and not Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805. This seems to indicate that Samsung has returned to what it did with the GALAXY Note 2, which employed the company's Exynos 4412 rather than a third party processor.

Unlike the GALAXY Alpha, which is equipped with Intel's XMM 7260 baseband modem, no signs of Intel's chips could be found on the GALAXY Note 4's printed circuit board (PCB).

As for baseband, Samsung adopted the Shannon 303, while various other components, including the power management chip, RF transceiver, image processor, and NFC controller, are all from Samsung's own product lines.

The device's Digital barometric pressure sensor is Bosh Sensortec's BMP180; the 3-Aixs is Yamaha's YAS532B. The audio hub CODEC w/voice processor DSP is Wolfson's WM5110E, the same as the one used in the GALAXY Alpha, while the heartbeat sensor appears to be an unknown model from Analog Devices.

The other chips seen on the PCB are from Maxim, Avago, Broadcom and Silicon Image.

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As for the S Pen, the stylus is Walcom's W9012 model. The GALAXY Note 3 used Wacom's previous W9010 model.

The teardown performed by TechInsights could not confirm the chips and brands of the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/ANT+ components.

It's worth noting that Qualcomm's components are hardly seen on the "Exynos chip" edition of the Samsung GALAXY Note 4, which is unlike the case with the previous Note 3 (Qualcomm edition), where the only Samsung parts that showed up are its NAND Flash and SDRAM components. The situation is apparently the same for Samsung's GALAXY Alpha model.

In terms of the GALAXY Note 4's overall cost, the TechInsights report concluded it could be $US 267, which is noticeably higher than iPhone 6 Plus' $US 245.2.

The cost difference between the two models is mainly due to their panels, cameras, processors and NAND Flash. The biggest difference lies in the display – Samsung uses a 5.7-inch Super AMOLED display (2560×1440), while iPhone 6 Plus has a 5.5-inch display (1920×1080). The Apple handset outperforms Samsung in both the non-electronic parts and BB+XCR.

According to TechInsights, one main thing that needs to be kept in mind regarding its cost analysis is that it is only based on components and assemblage without including the R&D and other authorization costs.

(Source: This article is authorized by VR-Zone for re-distribution)

Elantric

#30
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+6+Plus+Teardown/29206


Back in 2010, Steve Jobs famously said, "no one is going to buy a big phone." Well, with most people waiting a month for their pre-ordered iPhone 6 Plus to arrive, we'd say that people are buying big phones, or that supply is severely limited. We couldn't wait a month, so we sent our teardown crew to Melbourne, Australia to be the first in line to get the 6 Plus. Let's take a look at how this giant is put together and tear it down.

Check out the full teardown at iFixit.com
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhon...






aliensporebomb

The weird thing is now I'm hearing the amount of apps you need to install to have a potential problem is in the neighborhood of 700.

700 apps?  I don't even have 700 apps on my computer!  IOS 8.1.1 allegedly fixed a lot of the issues but I have not had any issues with my 6+.

Really enjoying PPG Minimapper and Moon Animoog.
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

Elantric

I was on the fence and waited before ordering a replacement for my 2012 Galaxy Note 2.

The reports of bad RAM in the 128GB iphone 6 Plus had me worried and if judging by hardware alone - I prefer the Galaxy Note 4.

But lately its important to keep up with my family on east coast  - who all use Ipads and iphones and use Apple Facetime for Skype like video calls.

   So I ordered an Iphone 6 Plus on December 11, from AT&T  - as that was the only way to keep my current unlimited data plan - It was a real bitch to get AT&T to agree to keep my old plan  - AT&T reports the new iphone 6 Plus 128GB will not arrive to me until Jan 1-12

aliensporebomb

I'm enjoying my Six Plus.  No problems so far and the battery life is really excellent.
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

Rhcole

Just got a Note 4 as an early Xmas present. Haven't even had time to set it up. But, I'm a happy guy!

Rhcole

Got the Note 4 going. Without the pen it's just a really good phone with a great display. The pen makes it the GREATEST PHONE EVER for my purposes.

We'll see if the audio latency issues get solved in Android at a level to make it viable as an audio platform. If they don't, oh well...

Elantric

#37
Quote
We'll see if the audio latency issues get solved in Android at a level to make it viable as an audio platform. If they don't, oh well...

If I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 4, the 1st thing id do is head to the Samsung Store and download IK Amplitube and try it with a USB Class Compliant Audio Interface.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/amplitubeandroid/
AmpliTube turns your Android device that supports Samsung Professional Audio technology — like the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy Note Edge and Galaxy S5, and soon to be available on the Galaxy Note 3 and other devices — into the ultimate mobile guitar and bass multi-effects processor, offering up digital versions of some of the most coveted amplifiers and stompbox effects of all time.

Use the iRig HD-A, iRig or iRig Stomp audio interface adapters to connect your guitar, bass or keyboard to your mobile device and you'll be ready to rock! You can also use the iRig Mic to process vocals and acoustic instruments with this powerful mobile suite.

AmpliTube gives you incredibly realistic amp tones and effects in a mobile app from the leaders in analog gear modeling software for professional recording studios.


Must get the Samsung USB OTA Adapter too

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-R205UBEGSTA






http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/themes-apps/exclusive-note-4-apps-collection-t2882577

Rhcole

I think I'll wait for the Samsung Professional Audio SDK to get integrated into a few synth apps AND the onboard OS  updated before exploring the music possibilities. If it could play synths with the FTP that would be amazing, maybe even a game-changer.

I got it for serious purposes and used it yesterday in that regard. I used the pen to quickly edit and work on notes from a client while out, quite remarkable for a device that fits easily in my pocket.


Elantric

#39
QuoteI think I'll wait for the Samsung Professional Audio SDK to get integrated into a few synth apps AND the onboard OS  updated before exploring the music possibilities.

Mid February 2015 is the earliest release date for Note 4 Android 5.01 OS Lollipop. But many reports indicate it runs more sluggish compared to Android 4.4.4.

http://www.androidcentral.com/weekly-poll-results-lollipop-updates-and-usability-issues

Elantric

Android 5.0 Lollipop for Galaxy Note 4 announced
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/finally-best-phablet-world-getting-android-lollipop-124523626.html
After releasing Android 5.0 Lollipop updates for a variety of top flagship handsets in the past weeks, including the Galaxy S5 and Galaxy Note 3, Samsung has started rolling out the one official Lollipop ROM certain smartphone buyers were waiting for, the one made for the Galaxy Note 4.


Samsung's best phablet yet — which also happens to still be a better phablet than Apple's iPhone 6 Plus, though it might not be a better phone — can be upgraded to Lollipop now, although not all users will be able to do it immediately. As SamMobile reports, the first version of the handset to get Material Design and all the other Android 5.0 goodies is the SM-N910C model in Poland.

The update should be available to buyers of this specific model as an over-the-air download automatically. If that doesn't happen, you should simply go to Settings, About phone, Software updates and tap the Check now option.

Considering the update has started rolling out in Poland, it's likely other countries in the region will also get it soon.

Meanwhile, Galaxy Note 4 owners that aren't yet able to install Android 5.0 on their handsets can check out the following video, in which the publication highlights the main features of Lollipop on Samsung's 2014 phablet.

Elantric

As a side note - i take this news with a grain of salt - Here in the USA the wireless carriers (AT&T, Verison, Sprint) often delay  release of Android OS updates around 3-6 months after general release, as the US wireless carriers take a sluggish amount of time to "tweak" the OS, and add in their specific bloatware. it took me 9 months to obtain Android "KitKat" OS update for my 2012 Galaxy Note 2 on AT&T - and explains why I went back to iPhone 6 Plus last Christmas. ( could not be happier!) 

Rhcole

The Note 4 is a superb device, my wife compares it to her iPad. I never use anything but it in business meetings now.

No rush for me on updating the OS though, I just got me an American Telecaster Thinline Deluxe, my spare time is occupied!

Rhcole

Verizon software upgraded to 5.01 yesterday. Now let's see if anybody is developing low latency synth apps...

Elantric

#44
QuoteNow let's see if anybody is developing low latency synth apps...

Android Synth apps are listed here

http://www.musicalandroid.com/

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=12721.0

Rhcole

Nothing new about synths using the low latency drivers. Radio silence for the last few months.

Elantric

#46
QuoteNothing new about synths using the low latency drivers. Radio silence for the last few months.
No Audio drivers are required for Android - simply connect any USB Class Compliant Audio / MIDI interface to your Android 5 phone / tablet thats supports USB OTG Host adapter accessory   

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-R205UBEGSTA



- and go play

Android 5 is supposed include the low latency support for all  USB Class Compliant Audio interface hardware.

Choose your USB Class Compliant Audio / MIDI interface from list here

http://auriaapp.com/Support/auria-audio-interfaces

Rhcole

Bought an adapter and tested with Caustic. The FTP connects fine, but latency is slap-back echo level... perhaps 250ms? Useless except for slow attack synths.

My guess is that it needs to be 4X faster before I would consider using this.
I do think synths have to be programmed to take advantage of Lollipop audio enhancements, or Samsung's SDK, or whatever.

It isn't a successful approach with this one synth tested.

Elantric

QuoteBought an adapter and tested with Caustic. The FTP connects fine, but latency is slap-back echo level... perhaps 250ms? Useless except for slow attack synths.

My guess is that it needs to be 4X faster before I would consider using this.
I do think synths have to be programmed to take advantage of Lollipop audio enhancements, or Samsung's SDK, or whatever.

It isn't a successful approach with this one synth tested.

Thanks for the update

Sadly - this type long latency matches what I experience with my 2012 Samsung Galaxy Note 2 running Android 4.4

( now use iPhone 6 Plus and back in music biz)

Rhcole

#49
Holy Crap! I just tried another product called "Music Synthesizer for Android" http://appcrawlr.com/android/music-synthesizer-for-android and it works GREAT! Latency around the level of the GR-55, which is good enough even for piano voices. The synth is very basic and limited, but it proves the concept.

A cell phone that doubles as a good sound generator. Hmmmmmmmm...