2017 GUITAR SUMMIT Mannheim/Germany

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Elantric

http://www.guitarsummit.de/en/

http://www.guitarsummit.de/en/business/faqs-guitar-summit/


http://www.guitarsummit.de/en/programm/



tomorrow is the first day of the new GUITAR SUMMIT Show in Mannheim/Germany. Hopefully some of you have the possibility to visit me at booth number 239 /  2nd Floor.  For more information visit:  www.guitarsummit.de


THE FOX
I just released a very special art project with artist Simone Rutz. Get ready to be surprised! Have a look and leave a comment and/or like: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_XJzQSWCY&t=4s


Reminder: NEXT WEEK LONDON EVENT
Just a short reminder that I will be in London next week at "The North American Guitar" store. There will be an official Jens Ritter Instruments launch event, held at their London showroom in the evening of 14th September. I will be there with some new guitars, and will talk about my instrument making. For more information about the event, please visit: www.thenorthamericanguitar.com


NEW INSTRUMENTS
Here are the new instruments I will bring to the show tomorrow in Mannheim: www.ritter-instruments.com/available.php

Jens

Majiken

I'm going there in a few hours, hopefully in time to catch the Roland synthesizer presentation.  Will also see if Thomas Nordegg is there already, didn't know he was Austrian- born  :)
Take what you need, put back a bit more, leave the place behind you better than it was before :-)

www.majiken.rocks

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Quote from: Majiken on September 07, 2017, 03:46:26 PM
I'm going there in a few hours, hopefully in time to catch the Roland synthesizer presentation.  Will also see if Thomas Nordegg is there already, didn't know he was Austrian- born  :)
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/exclusive_interview_with_steve_vais_tech_thomas_nordegg.html
Thomas Nordegg will be at the Relish Booth
http://www.guitarsummit.de/news/thomas-nordegg-guitartech-der-stars-auf-dem-summit/



Thomas Nordegg at the Summit: Guitartech of the stars
Should there be a works council for Guitartechs, he would be its executive committee. Two times. There are probably only a few techs who are so long in the business and whose customers read like the Who is Who of the Rock'n'Roll story. The Viennese Thomas Nordegg already brought Frank Zappa's children to school and works today for Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, Orianthi and Richie Sambora.



We are delighted to be able to feel the same in two workshops at the same time. He will unpack all sorts of stories from his more than 40 years of career and chat from the sewing box, which he has experienced as a technician of the stars. If one is familiar with guitars and equipment, then it is Thomas Nordegg - he is, so to speak, the technician to whom the guitarists trust. Virtuosos from all over the world go to see him for advice. And if he's not on the road, he's tinkering with new guitars and making crazy modifications.



Together with Relish Guitars Switzerland he developed the visionary Phantom Jane. At the Summit, you will have the opportunity to learn about the collaboration between the two, and Thomas will introduce you in detail to what makes this instrument so special. What is the guitar of the future? Here you get the answers!


https://relish.swiss/
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=18210.0

Kevin M

Quote from: admsustainiac on September 07, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/exclusive_interview_with_steve_vais_tech_thomas_nordegg.html
Thomas Nordegg will be at the Relish Booth
http://www.guitarsummit.de/news/thomas-nordegg-guitartech-der-stars-auf-dem-summit/


Really interesting, great sounding guitar. Looks like it's well built too. A couple of dollars, though.


Thomas Nordegg at the Summit: Guitartech of the stars
Should there be a works council for Guitartechs, he would be its executive committee. Two times. There are probably only a few techs who are so long in the business and whose customers read like the Who is Who of the Rock'n'Roll story. The Viennese Thomas Nordegg already brought Frank Zappa's children to school and works today for Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, Orianthi and Richie Sambora.



We are delighted to be able to feel the same in two workshops at the same time. He will unpack all sorts of stories from his more than 40 years of career and chat from the sewing box, which he has experienced as a technician of the stars. If one is familiar with guitars and equipment, then it is Thomas Nordegg - he is, so to speak, the technician to whom the guitarists trust. Virtuosos from all over the world go to see him for advice. And if he's not on the road, he's tinkering with new guitars and making crazy modifications.



Together with Relish Guitars Switzerland he developed the visionary Phantom Jane. At the Summit, you will have the opportunity to learn about the collaboration between the two, and Thomas will introduce you in detail to what makes this instrument so special. What is the guitar of the future? Here you get the answers!


https://relish.swiss/
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=18210.0

Majiken

So, I made it to Mannheim on the morning of the first day, and wanted to share a couple of impressions.

Interestingly enough, the Frankfurt music fair was there, I think they sponsored something.  I also think they realize something in their household needs to change tremendously if they don't want to go extinct (at least for guitarists and bassists) on alternative shows like this or the Holy Grail in Berlin.  This show was a mixed bag, good location, several shared stands among smaller companies.  I had the impression that many non-European companies like Roland had less than their best reps on site (Gundy Keller, who used to work for them, was there)- I for example made a point to attend the Roland guitar synthesizer workshop, and it was TERRIBLE!  All the guy had there was a SY300, no GR55, there was no real prepared presentation (a second guy said stuff like "I guess at least some of you know ASDR" and said the the guitarist "play some stuff".  He used playback, and the speakers were about at the 5th row, so in rows 1-4 you got your head shaved by the guitar amp and a hint of background somethingelse.... I left at midpoint, like about half of the folks in there.  The Roland/Boss stand was poorly set up, and when I walked by there a couple hours later there wasn't even a rep on site!  They only damaged their reputation, at least on day one, it was a real disappointment.

But I did meet Thomas Nordegg!!! At the Yamaha/Line 6 stand; he had his "do-it-all" electric with him and showed it around.

Really nice guy, we talked for a good 20 minutes on our own (yeah, I'm the one with the fresh "you'll win that lawsuit for sure" haircut)...



The absolute opposite to the Roland workshop was acoustic genius Jon Gomm


He played a song using his incredible technique, then explained how he does what he does- for example, he split the guitar into bass drum, snare, toms, and hihat plus bass guitar and melody, showing exactly how he does what.  His guitar has a couple of pimps like a contrabass contact pickup on the underside of the top, plus SCRUGGS BANJO TUNERS for the B and E strings!  His use especially of the latter was extremely musical and captivating.  Of note was his saying that when he composes, he generally has all the parts laid out in his head BEFORE he picks up the guitar- that ensures that what comes out is more of a song that says something he wants to express as opposed to being a show of technical force.  Highly impressed, go see him if you can!

Last report item is about the Tronical tuning system.  I have the "old" 18-preset version on my 1992 Taylor 810, and while it was mostly fine, easily 50% of the time I would tune just before the last green light went out and it shut itself off the low e-string would tune itself a tiny bit sharp.  Drove me crazy (and due to the locking element on the heads it drove my luthier nuts as well).  I complained to the guy at the Tronical stand, and he admitted that there was a lot of identical feedback on the old system!  Their new 36-preset system apparently solved that problem, and he said I could get a new PCB unit as a drop-in for a reasonable price.  He then showed me their newest system, which has bluetooth and an app, and should be out before the end of this year.  The stringing has been approved, so full detunes for work on the guitar should be much easier (sorry for the bad picture):

The PCB unit would cost me around 70 Euros, the new system should run around 300 Euros in Europe (and half price in USD, when I look at the prices my stateside buddies get to pay).  Such is life.....

All in all, there is room for continuous improvement, but I think it was a good start.
Take what you need, put back a bit more, leave the place behind you better than it was before :-)

www.majiken.rocks

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carlb

Thanks for the review, Ken. Great pics, Think your tie-dye guitar shirt is stealing the pic from Thomas's guitar, heh!

Wow, for Roland/Boss to have flubbed an event like this ... Their priorities really are elsewhere, and the reps hearts weren't in it. Seemingly some last-minute "hope this doesn't come off as too awful."

There are great sound-sculptors (more than a few on this board) who could have put a great demos together for the the SY300.

No GR55, no GP10 ... that's rough.
ES Les Paul, internal Roland GK
Boss SY-1000, Valeton Coral Amp pedal
Morningstar MC8 & MC6
QSC CP8 powered speaker

whippinpost91850

Ken thanks for the review, I, for the life of me, cannot figure out what the hell Roland is doing. This sure sounds like a major flub on there part ???

pasha811

mmmmh. Looks like big companies are not investing anymore in every event. Sad story.
Listen to my music at :  http://alonetone.com/pasha/

Elantric

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Majiken - thanks for the great review of the show - happy you were able to meet Thomas Nordegg - he's a real treasure and resource of detailed info.

He epitomizes the saying "been there, done that".   
https://relish.swiss/thomas-nordegg.html

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Wow, for Roland/Boss to have flubbed an event like this ... Their priorities really are elsewhere, and the reps hearts weren't in it. Seemingly some last-minute "hope this doesn't come off as too awful."

There are great sound-sculptors (more than a few on this board) who could have put a great demos together for the the SY300.

No GR55, no GP10 ... that's rough.

I suspect Roland had a scheduling issue - they placed all their resources and big guns at their own show occurring this same weekend in London
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=21532.0





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There are great sound-sculptors (more than a few on this board) who could have put a great demos together for the the SY300.

Same extremely poor SY-300 DEMO occurred at Roland/Boss booth at NAMM show
And GP-10 has never been demoed at any music trade show in north America
They had a lot bigger display for the DD500

It just tells me that its "business as usual"- and after 10 years efforts here at  our forum make zero impact with anyone at Roland / Boss

carlb

Do we know what the new pedal is yet? If not, I'll guess a 1/4" jack 'modeler.' No alt tuning of course, but acoustic/electric models plus amp models and effects. With USB digital interface, no midi, of course.
ES Les Paul, internal Roland GK
Boss SY-1000, Valeton Coral Amp pedal
Morningstar MC8 & MC6
QSC CP8 powered speaker

Elantric

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Quote from: carlb on September 10, 2017, 08:09:05 PM
Do we know what the new pedal is yet? If not, I'll guess a 1/4" jack 'modeler.' No alt tuning of course, but acoustic/electric models plus amp models and effects. With USB digital interface, no midi, of course.

Boss "Cause & Effects" - 10 Days of Guitar Technology Sept 8-17 2017 (UK)
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=21532.0

whippinpost91850

I'm guessing the new Boss/ Jhs combo pedal