Author Topic: KATANA PATCH LOADER - a midi real-time live patch file Loader (128 patches)  (Read 1892 times)

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Offline act

Hello,
Amazing work and software ! Bravo.
I own a Katana 100 combo since two week now (a very nice gift from my family, thanks to them) and I found this amp amazing but so limited with just four patch and the panel system, no midi input !?
And the Roland GA-FC is an expensive thing for again limited accessible functions.
I don't understand why all those limitations, when the amp can offer so much !!
So, I search on every corner of the web and I found so many alternative solutions and possibility to take advantage of the power of the Katana.
But sincerely, for me, the best is THE KATANA PATCH LOADER.
I installed the software this afternoon, made midi set up to connect my FCB1010 (set up the FCB1010 to send correct midi Program Change), load a Katana Liveset (tsl file) and BINGO I can switch between a long list of patches and transmit them instantly to the katana.
I don't try to see if can switch between the 128 patches, but with 10 for me it's a good start.
Now I'm going to make a nice Liveset and go farther than I expected.
Thanks a lot again, great work !
Now, I'm going to dig in this software and work with.

ps : I know this software is in development, but It seems to "suck" a lot the CPU. Constantly 12 % of the CPU is used by the software.
And the amount of RAM used increase fast to 250 Mo and more.

Offline admsustainiac


ps : I know this software is in development, but It seems to "suck" a lot the CPU. Constantly 12 % of the CPU is used by the software.
And the amount of RAM used increase fast to 250 MB and more.



There is no free lunch 

Dedicated alternatives - but not capable of 100 presets ( like Gumtowns Katana FX Floorboard Solution



PrimovaSound MIDX-20
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=17561.0

or if you are a programmer there is

SnHirsch's Katana MIDI Bridge Code
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19782.0
i understand one person runs that on a BeagleBone Black SBC




 
« Last Edit: July 10, 2017, 03:30:55 PM by admsustainiac »

Offline act

Hello,
The CPU consumption problem is set by hiding the application. (on windows 7)
We go from a use of the CPU of 12% to 0%.


Offline gumtown

There is a new updated version (20170717) posted, which solves the CPU usage.
CPU usage is almost 0 now.

The memory usage can't be avoided, due to the C++ framework used,
and the editor/loader unpacks all graphics and *.tsl patches  into the memory space on start up,
which vastly reduces disk read time to load a patch or open an edit page.

Once the original smaller patch loader returns, it will use less CPU, and slightly less memory.

Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Offline act

Cool, I'll try it tomorrow.
Thank you.

Offline snhirsch

Hi, Gumtown.  Did you see my note in the FxFloorboard thread?  I should have posted it here, since it actually referred to the patch loader.  I describe a solid workaround for the "wrong data stored" issue that may help you zero in on the underlying bug.
 

Offline gumtown

Hi, Gumtown.  Did you see my note in the FxFloorboard thread?  I should have posted it here, since it actually referred to the patch loader.  I describe a solid workaround for the "wrong data stored" issue that may help you zero in on the underlying bug.
Yes, I have plugged away some more to tidy most of these issues up.
as always, as some issues get resolved, others appear.

I have noticed that some of the 'SNEAKY' parameters like chain order and a few OD/DS types don't want to save correctly into the Katana user memory, but the katana 'temporary memory' is quite happy to accept them.
So as far as the Patch Loader goes, the first 5 patches (direct from the Katana) may have minor limitations on some parameters,
while the other 123 loader patches allow the full range of Katana sneaky parameters.

So here is the latest Windows Katana Patch Loader
version 20170720
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloorboard/files/experimental/katana_patch_loader_setup.exe/download

Some basic functions of the first 8 assigns work too, the only thing left to sort is when an Assign Target Minimum parameter is higher than a Target Maximum (inverse/reverse assign control).
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Offline snhirsch

I was able to reliably save chain order using the method outlined in my note.  For a check, I used the 'Write' option to save, switched away to a different preset, returned and double-clicked the "read current patch" option at the top.  The ordering seemed to come back reliably.  Are you saying that I wasn't really getting back a stored patch by doing this?

Offline snhirsch

I have noticed that some of the 'SNEAKY' parameters like chain order and a few OD/DS types don't want to save correctly into the Katana user memory, but the katana 'temporary memory' is quite happy to accept them.

This tends to support my belief that the T-Comp parameter is actually doing something in spite of the fact that it won't save.  Robin concluded that it wasn't, but I respectfully disagree with the test methodology.  When my limited time permits, I'm going to drive the amp with a tone-burst generator and see if I can spot differences in the dynamic behavior at various T-Comp settings.  It's possible I'm deluding myself, but I can detect a definite difference in "feel" when T-Comp is adjusted.

Offline gumtown

Here is another update, it is getting nearer to completed, and then eventually released as the 'revised Editor'.
The original patch loader will follow soon after, with the enhancements of the editor added.

So.. this update has an editable Patch Loader, patches can be added, saved to, deleted, inserted
       into the patch loader 'Tree List'.
       Global assigns have been added, and the ability to include these within an Exported Patch Loader file,
       so that the lightweight "Patch Loader" can handle global assigns saved in the patch bundle.
       This modified *.tsl format is still able to be opened in Tone Studio too.

Here it is, windows version 20170803 download link for inspection..
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloorboard/files/experimental/katana_patch_loader_setup.exe/download

The patch saving into the Katana should be improved and save to the correct channels.

 
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Offline act

Hello,
Great ! I will try it as soon as possible.
Many thanks

 

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