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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #425 on: June 23, 2017, 05:56:35 AM »
MIDX-20 V2 Available now.
I'll start shipping upcoming week.
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« Reply #426 on: June 23, 2017, 06:45:04 AM »
Great news, Robert!  Looking forward to getting mine :-).

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #427 on: July 02, 2017, 12:11:40 PM »
...and don't forget you folks having an earlier MIDX-20:

The new V2 firmware is free and available here: http://primovasound.com/midx_20_page2.html
You just download and install the new PC Assistant (you may have to uninstall the old PC Assistant first, if you ever used it) and the new V2 firmware is bundled. Pretty easy thing, assuming you have a USB to MIDI cable like UM-ONE MKII or similar to connect with the MIDX unit.

PC Assistant Manual V2 covering the new features here: http://primovasound.com/pdf/MIDX20_Assistant.pdf

http://primovasound.com/midx_20_page2.html
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19048.msg153081#msg153081
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #428 on: July 10, 2017, 06:12:09 PM »
I received my MIDX-20 last week.. Robert shipped the unit from Sweden to me in America superfast!
  I am still in the process of learning the ins and outs of this fantastic device...
   Setting it up to run my Katana head thru the Katana bridge software was a breeze.. I finally have 100% control of every parameter including sneaky amps via my midi foot controller..
   Next I will be testing the unit with my GP-10 ..
   Thanks Robert for all the hard work you put into this fantastic piece oe equipment !
   
   

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #429 on: July 14, 2017, 04:36:19 AM »
There's a bug in V2.0 firmware in the Katana Bridge.
- CC#40 Katana Noise Gate on/off does not work.

Also I will try to squeeze in CC#7 as "Volume pedal controller" requested by Snhirsch
I quote Snhirsch:
"This parm is independent of the various amplifier master volume settings and permits those to be used to balance relative gains between models while CC#7 controls overall level.  I believe this parameter is tied to the GA-FC 'Volume' expansion pedal jack (but otherwise not exposed in BTS or built-in MIDI CC). "

I hope to address the above during next week.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #430 on: July 14, 2017, 08:46:56 AM »
There's a bug in V2.0 firmware in the Katana Bridge.
- CC#40 Katana Noise Gate on/off does not work.

Also I will try to squeeze in CC#7 as "Volume pedal controller" requested by Snhirsch
I quote Snhirsch:
"This parm is independent of the various amplifier master volume settings and permits those to be used to balance relative gains between models while CC#7 controls overall level.  I believe this parameter is tied to the GA-FC 'Volume' expansion pedal jack (but otherwise not exposed in BTS or built-in MIDI CC). "


I hope to address the above during next week.
/Robert

Adjusting the Volume using an expression pedal occurs when connecting a Roland EV-5 to either the Katana's rear Expression pedal jack, or the Expression pedal jack on GA-FC.

I always thought both were tied to the same parameter



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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #431 on: July 14, 2017, 11:11:46 AM »
There's a bug in V2.0 firmware in the Katana Bridge.
- CC#40 Katana Noise Gate on/off does not work.

Also I will try to squeeze in CC#7 as "Volume pedal controller" requested by Snhirsch
I quote Snhirsch:
"This parm is independent of the various amplifier master volume settings and permits those to be used to balance relative gains between models while CC#7 controls overall level.  I believe this parameter is tied to the GA-FC 'Volume' expansion pedal jack (but otherwise not exposed in BTS or built-in MIDI CC). "

I hope to address the above during next week.

Cool, thanks!  For completeness, might also be helpful to implement the sysex-based reverb on/off.  I realize this can be accomplished through the built-in CC#18.

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #432 on: July 14, 2017, 11:14:30 AM »
Adjusting the Volume using an expression pedal occurs when connecting a Roland EV-5 to either the Katana's rear Expression pedal jack, or the Expression pedal jack on GA-FC.

I always thought both were tied to the same parameter

Agreed.  My sense is that both of them target the same sysex parameter (pedal volume).

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #433 on: July 15, 2017, 09:43:32 AM »
Cool, thanks!  For completeness, might also be helpful to implement the sysex-based reverb on/off.  I realize this can be accomplished through the built-in CC#18.

Why? I snag CC#18 at the bridge MIDI channel and passes it on to the Katana using the katana MIDI channel.
(And that goes for all built in CC#)

What will Sysex reverb on/off add to it?
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #434 on: July 16, 2017, 03:10:25 AM »
Love the new functionalities added. Give me an option to block a CC range and I'll be extatic! :)
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #435 on: July 16, 2017, 04:16:04 AM »
Love the new functionalities added. Give me an option to block a CC range and I'll be extatic! :)

Why didn't I think of that. Great idea! I'll see if it's feasible.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #436 on: July 16, 2017, 08:56:46 AM »
Why? I snag CC#18 at the bridge MIDI channel and passes it on to the Katana using the katana MIDI channel.
(And that goes for all built in CC#)

What will Sysex reverb on/off add to it?

Like I said, not critical, but it would appeal to my sense of symmetry to have a CC# adjacent to the reverb control range.  Just the way I (over) think matters - don't waste time on it :-).

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #437 on: July 16, 2017, 05:46:47 PM »
Please note that a New MIDX-20 PC-Assistant software V2.02 has been posted
bundled with the new MIDX-20 Firmware V2.1 (and V2.0 and V1.3)

You will have to uninstall the old Assistant before installing the new version.

MIDX-20 Release notes:
V2.1 2017-07-17
Fix: Katana Noise Gate On/Off (CC#40) did not work.
New: Katana CC#7 - Global volume added.
New: Katana CC#8 - Store to current preset added.
New: Katana CC#9 - Store to selected preset (1-4) added.
New: CC# Operation/Translation: 'Remove CC# Range' added.

All manuals updated, new PDF versions posted.
(you may have to clear cache in web browser, all docs should be dated 2017-07-17).

Download page:
http://primovasound.com/midx_20_page2.html

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #438 on: July 16, 2017, 07:30:41 PM »
Please note that a New MIDX-20 PC-Assistant software V2.02 has been posted
bundled with the new MIDX-20 Firmware V2.1 (and V2.0 and V1.3)

You will have to uninstall the old Assistant before installing the new version.

MIDX-20 Release notes:
V2.1 2017-07-17
Fix: Katana Noise Gate On/Off (CC#40) did not work.
New: Katana CC#7 - Global volume added.
New: Katana CC#8 - Store to current preset added.
New: Katana CC#9 - Store to selected preset (1-4) added.
New: CC# Operation/Translation: 'Remove CC# Range' added.

All manuals updated, new PDF versions posted.
(you may have to clear cache in web browser, all docs should be dated 2017-07-17).

Download page:
http://primovasound.com/midx_20_page2.html

As always, your responsiveness and productivity are awe-inspiring!  Thanks, Robert.

And, I'd like to publicly thank you for your kind words about me in the MIDX-20 manual.  Very much appreciated.

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #439 on: July 16, 2017, 11:12:37 PM »
Man, that was quick. Off to re-use my VoiceLive 3 extreme as a Katana controller. Thx, Robert.  :D
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #440 on: July 22, 2017, 11:19:01 PM »
I'm trying to make my GP-10 and GR-55 to change programs sent by Bandhelper or Setlist Maker. Tried different configuration on the MIDX-30 but the only thing I get is when I change the program in the GP10 the GR-55 changes to the same number as the GP-10. What would be the setting for the MIDX-20 to achieve what i'm trying to do. Attached is a graphic representation of my setup.

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #441 on: July 23, 2017, 02:24:15 AM »
I'm trying to make my GP-10 and GR-55 to change programs sent by Bandhelper or Setlist Maker. Tried different configuration on the MIDX-30 but the only thing I get is when I change the program in the GP10 the GR-55 changes to the same number as the GP-10. What would be the setting for the MIDX-20 to achieve what i'm trying to do. Attached is a graphic representation of my setup.

THANKS,

Can set list maker be configured to transmit two PC commands for each song, one at channel 1 (for GP-10) and one at channel 2 (for GR-55)? If so, configure the GR-55 to listen to channel 2, as GP-10 always listens to channel 1.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #442 on: July 25, 2017, 02:16:08 AM »
A kind Norwegian customer recently made me aware that setting the BPM (Clock) through the MIDX USB ports did not work with Roland/Boss gear.
Quote: "I'm sending tempo from a Boss RC-505 loop station through a MIDI solutions Quadra Thru to MIDX-20 with a GT-001 connected to the LWR USB port. GT-001 receives PC and CC from loop station but not clock."

This problem is now fixed and a New MIDX-20 PC-Assistant software V2.03 has been posted bundled with the new MIDX-20 Firmware V2.2 (and V2.0 and V1.3)

You will have to uninstall the old Assistant before installing the new version.

MIDX-20 Release notes:
V2.2 2017-07-25
Fix: Realtime messages like clock (BPM) to Roland USB devices (GP/GT/GR/VG/SY) did not work. Fixed.


V2.1 2017-07-17
Fix: Katana Noise Gate On/Off (CC#40) did not work.
New: Katana CC#7 - Global volume added.
New: Katana CC#8 - Store to current preset added.
New: Katana CC#9 - Store to selected preset (1-4) added.
New: CC# Operation/Translation: 'Remove CC# Range' added.

Download page:
http://primovasound.com/midx_20_page2.html
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #443 on: July 29, 2017, 04:45:29 PM »
Is MIDX-20 able to control Boss BR-80?
Just wondering, because it uses COSM and has a USB port.

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #444 on: July 29, 2017, 07:53:29 PM »
Is MIDX-20 able to control Boss BR-80?
Just wondering, because it uses COSM and has a USB port.
There is not much to control in a BR-80 (micro multi-recorder), the effects are not accessible via midi/sysx, there are no assigns or input midi options.
They only midi options I found in the BR-80 is to play the internal drum machine and send midi start/stop.

Even if the MIDX can communicate with the BR-80, you need the BR-80 to have a midi In/Out subsystem.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #445 on: August 02, 2017, 02:19:15 AM »
A future request: posibility to assign two zones to an expression pedal.
I.e. 0-100 operates Wah pedal range and 127 toggles Wah on/off.


This is a technique I've used since the early days of VG-88 and one I'm missing with the Katana.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #446 on: August 09, 2017, 06:48:15 PM »
A future request: posibility to assign two zones to an expression pedal.
I.e. 0-100 operates Wah pedal range and 127 toggles Wah on/off.

This is a technique I've used since the early days of VG-88 and one I'm missing with the Katana.

Yup, also thought about it. May add it later if I can dig up enough bytes. There's just 106 bytes of code left... ::)
I guess throwing out the Mustang bridge would be the next step.
Trust me I really tried to optimize and compress every corner of the code over and over again.
Also there's a MIDI boot loader in there eating up space (the boat loader is the guy allowing field upgrade of MIDX firmware).

If I do any future incarnation of the MIDX hardware I'll go for more memory.
64K ROM / 8k RAM / 256 bytes EEPROM is not really jaw dropping these days.

However amazing how much can be done with sparse resources if tweaking things carefully.
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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #447 on: August 09, 2017, 07:35:47 PM »
Throw out the Mustang bridge?  Is that not a feature that's getting used?  How difficult would it be to offer a couple of different firmware builds?  I can always use my Mustang bridge software on a Beaglebone if necessary, but it's nice to have it in the convenient form-factor of the MIDX-20.  Would hate to see it go.

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« Reply #448 on: August 10, 2017, 04:05:48 PM »
Could buy a second one?

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Re: PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface
« Reply #449 on: August 10, 2017, 07:05:35 PM »
Throw out the Mustang bridge?  Is that not a feature that's getting used?  How difficult would it be to offer a couple of different firmware builds?
Very easily actually. But that require people going through a PC Assistant firmware selection procedure if the thing is not configured properly at arrival.
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