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Title: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Zoppe on April 04, 2013, 02:51:27 AM
http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=1280 (http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=1280)
looks awesome, but seems to be dj/beatboxer oriented only...
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: aliensporebomb on April 04, 2013, 05:33:06 AM
Agreed.  I wonder if it's footswitchable?  I guess the RC-300 would still be the looper for someone such as myself.

Have to say, this is a great demo:

RC-505 Loop Station Introduction by Dub Fx (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX9W87DdYlE#ws)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: mbenigni on April 04, 2013, 06:35:24 AM
QuoteI wonder if it's footswitchable?

According to the marketing bullets:  "External control via MIDI and optional footswitches or expression pedal"

Looks very promising.  I generally find myself wishing I had a UI on the tabletop, in addition to triggers at my feet, with these more sophisticated loopers.  I wonder what price and release date are looking like.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: groovey1 on April 04, 2013, 09:35:14 AM
I haven't had my RC-300 all that long, but I have found myself wishing for more tracks. Now this one has 5! I wonder if the 300 and 505 can sync up?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Zoppe on April 04, 2013, 09:47:29 AM
RC-505 Loop Station Performance with Dub Fx (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXE6w8Puzj0#ws)

This performance is awesome, it actually has independent fx for each track!!! the accessible faders, everything at the palm of your hands... i didn't see a midi out, tough...
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: groovey1 on April 04, 2013, 10:02:05 AM
If you check out the "Image Gallery" in the link in your original post, you can see the connections on the back, including MIDI In and Out.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on April 04, 2013, 10:38:42 AM
http://www.andertons.co.uk/blog/miscellaneous/boss-rc-505-loop-station (http://www.andertons.co.uk/blog/miscellaneous/boss-rc-505-loop-station)

Andertons News
New Boss RC-505 Loop Station!

Originally posted on April 4th 2013 at 09:03 by Tim Brown
Boss RC-505

Sometimes a product comes to market with one intention and people see its potential in another.  The Original Boss Loop Station products were designed to be used by guitarists who wanted to record parts/phrases of songs and loop them into a performance. People saw the potential of this product and started to use it for other instruments including the singers and more interestingly beatboxers who were able to create amazing layered textures and warp their voice in news ways live. To get an idea of what can be done search Youtube for "Shlomo  Boss"

The Boss RC-505 is the evolution of the Loop Station and the first product designed for for beatboxers, singers, performers, and instrumentalists. Instead of controlling it with your feet you now use your hands and the interface is designed with singers in mind.

The Boss RC-505 is a table-top Loop Station that fits right into a busy DJ booth or club environment, making it ideal for beatboxers, singers, and club performers.

Just plug in a mic, instrument, smart phone or any other audio source and get started on the five stereo phrase tracks with up to three hours sampling time. Everything you need to control your performance is at your fingertips, with dedicated buttons on each track and powerful effects for a wide range of dynamic, real-time processing options.

The RC-505 also supports computer integration via USB and operation with external pedals and MIDI, opening a world of advanced looping possibilities for all types of musicians.


http://www.andertons.co.uk/dj-equipment/pid28508/cid727/boss-rc505-loop-station.asp (http://www.andertons.co.uk/dj-equipment/pid28508/cid727/boss-rc505-loop-station.asp)

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The Boss RC-505 Loop Station is designed from the ground up with the vocalist in mind. The Boss RC Loopstations have been really popular with beatboxers and singers but they wanted to control it with their hands not their feet.

So with the Boss RC-505 Pedals have been replaced with large buttons and everything has been refreshed with the singer in mind.

With 5 Stero Tracks and upto 3 hours of recording time the Boss RC-505 gives massive creative options. You have the ability to import samples and clips so you can use this in many ways, the key aim is a performance that is hands on creative.
Here's what Boss say about the RC-505

Although floor-based Boss Loop Stations are perfect for street performing or on stage, not everyone wants to use their feet to keep the show rolling. The Boss RC-505 is a table-top Loop Station that fits right into a busy DJ booth or club environment, making it ideal for beatboxers, singers, and club performers.

Just plug in a mic, instrument, smart phone or any other audio source and get started on the five stereo phrase tracks with up to three hours sampling time. Everything you need to control your performance is at your fingertips, with dedicated buttons on each track and powerful effects for a wide range of dynamic, real-time processing options.

The RC-505 also supports computer integration via USB and operation with external pedals and MIDI, opening a world of advanced looping possibilities for all types of musicians.

    Tabletop Loop Station that can be operated with the hands, perfect for beatboxers, vocalists, and club performers
    Five simultaneous stereo phrase tracks, with dedicated controls and independent volume faders
    Wide range of Input FX and Track FX for processing loops, including DJ and sampler-style effects
    Independent play mode and tempo sync settings enable a flexible combination of track behaviours and advanced performance options
    99 phrase memories, each containing five phrase tracks, custom effects/playback settings, and more
    85 onboard rhythm patterns, including odd-measure beats
    External control via MIDI and optional footswitches or expression pedal
    USB for phrase import/export with computers; USB audio/MIDI functionality for integration with DAW software
    XLR mic input with phantom power, mono/stereo instrument inputs, and stereo AUX input

Five stereo tracks with everything at your fingertips

Power without control is pointless. The RC-505 can play back five stereo tracks at once, making your performance easier to plan, build and control. You have everything you need at your fingertips: each of the five tracks has its own buttons to record, overdub, play and stop, giving complete control of your performance - no need to worry about pressing the wrong pedal with your foot. Each track has its own volume fader for fast adjustment, while the rhythm part can be sent via the headphones, giving a dedicated click track for monitoring and helping keep you in time. Each track also has its own playback mode (multi, single, one-shot, reverse, etc.) and tempo sync settings, providing even more flexibility once the performance has begun.

Powerful FX onboard

An effective performance Looper should be built around effects, so you can easily add colour to your sound during the gig. The RC-505 includes a wide variety of effects, split into two main types; Input FX and Track FX. Input FX such as ROBOT and VOCODER add unique textures when recording loops; Track FX, including VINYL FLICK and BEAT REPEAT provide dynamic DJ and sampler effects for real-time processing of phrase playback. Six dedicated buttons-three for Input FX and three for Track FX-can be loaded with your favourite effects, giving you one-touch on/off access while looping. In addition, effects parameters (filter cutoff, effect depth, etc.) can be tweaked in real time with the INPUT FX and TRACK FX knobs. Global compressor and reverb effects are also available for processing the overall sound output.

Four simultaneous audio inputs plus USB

The RC-505 has four inputs, so you can capture and mix a variety of different audio sources as you build your loops. There's an XLR microphone jack with phantom power, mono/stereo 1/4-inch inputs for guitars, synths, or other instruments, and an AUX mini-jack for connecting a music player or smart phone. Via USB, you can plug into your computer and import/export WAV audio phrases, for loop archiving or loading up RC-505 phrases with backing tracks or sounds for sampler-style triggering. You can also use optional foot switches to control the RC-505; one BOSS FS-6 or two FS-5Us; or a Roland EV-5 expression pedal can be connected via the rear-panel jack.

If you're working in the studio, the RC-505 offers extensive MIDI control options and you can also import WAV audio phrases via USB. This opens up a wealth of creative opportunities, especially with up to three hours of stereo recording on a single track. The RC-505's USB port also provides USB-Audio and USB-MIDI connections - ideal for connecting your favourite computer-based DAW software, syncing with other MIDI gear or backing up your recordings.

Customised looping: just how you like it

The RC-505 can be moulded to suit your performing style, rather than the other way round. The real-time controls can be customised to suit the way you like to loop. You can specify up to eight different functions and operate them in a variety of ways-with front-panel controls, an external expression pedal or foot switches, and/or various MIDI Control Change messages-extending your command of looping and many other operations. The eight control assignments are handily stored with phrase memories, allowing you to create and recall custom setups for different songs and performing situations.

Phrase Memories and Rhythms

When you power up your gear for a gig, you need to be sure that everything sounds just how you left it during rehearsal. This is where phrase memory comes in. The RC-505 has 99 phrase memories that provide onboard storage for phrase track data, and their various playback and effects settings. A combination of frequently used settings can be saved as a User Set, which you can easily load to quickly reconfigure any phrase memory, even in the heat of performing. Also included are 85 different onboard rhythms forming backings for loop recording, with a large selection of odd-measure beats for more advanced looping adventures.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on April 04, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
The RC-505  interface reminds me of the free looper included with the Logidy UM-3
http://logidy.com/ (http://logidy.com/)


Logidy Full circle (Free)
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More here:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=4153.msg28059#msg28059 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=4153.msg28059#msg28059)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Threeleggedyoyo on April 04, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
Gosh darnit. Just when I finally got my hands on a 300.

I wonder how good the footswitch capabilities are.

Edit:

Brochure says up to 8 Assignments.

http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/rc-505_brochure.pdf (http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/rc-505_brochure.pdf)

That could be a tight squeeze just to get the basic functions in on a footswitch depending on what the Target options are. I'd think this way would be good if it's available... similar to the 50's setup.

1) Select Next Loop
2) Select Previous Loop
3) Rec / Play / Dub Current Loop
4) Stop Current
5) Undo Current
6) Tap Tempo

Got a couple left to play with, anyway.

But all that assumes that Select Loop and Rec/Play/Dub are assignable (they weren't on the previous units).

I wonder why they always do exactly 8?

Weird to me that they didn't at least make the main buttons stompable.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Zymos on April 04, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Something new always comes along, what can you do...? :-\

This is also going to be considerably more expensive than the RC-300, around 700$ supposedly, and unless you are only using it for vocals, you are still going to need foot switches.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on April 04, 2013, 03:06:40 PM
Quote
This is also going to be considerably more expensive than the RC-300, around 700$ supposedly, and unless you are only using it for vocals, you are still going to need foot switches.


Its listed as 449 British pounds here:
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/pedals_s_detail.asp?stock=13040212540332 (http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/pedals_s_detail.asp?stock=13040212540332)

http://gbp.fx-exchange.com/usd/449-exchange-rates.html (http://gbp.fx-exchange.com/usd/449-exchange-rates.html)

which is $684USD

But in typical Roland fashion, I expect $599 USD MSRP.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Zymos on April 04, 2013, 03:22:41 PM
And you needed to edit my post why??
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on April 04, 2013, 03:25:34 PM
QuoteAnd you needed to edit my post why??

Observe I had to edit all posts in this thread to update the thread title

Now "New Boss RC-505 Loopstation"

Was  "New Loopstation"


Which led to confusion!  I already deleted a few duplicate posts today, by folks making duplicate announcements about Boss RC-505 loopstation.

We want to contain information about the Boss RC-505 in a common thread for this .

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The RC-505 can have the following features controlled from an external MIDI device.  For more detailed information please see pages 25 and 29 of the RC-505 Owner's Manual :

Syncing to an external MIDI device via MIDI clock.
Start/Stop of ALLTracks using the MIDI start command FA and the MIDI stop command FC. See pages 29 and 17 of the RC-505 Owner's Manual for the correct configuration of Controller Assignment and Control Sources to make this happen.
Switching Phrase Memory 1-99 via Program Change messages 1-99.
Receiving Control messages [CC#1 - #31, CC#64-#95].
More information on what CC#1-#31 & CC#64-#95 do please visit the MIDI Manufacturer's Association and download the MIDI Implementation Chart found under the Specifications button.
If you do not have the RC-505 Owner's Manual you can download it from the Roland product page found here:

http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=manuals&p=RC-505
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Zymos on April 04, 2013, 03:35:35 PM
That's cool, just gave me kind of a creepy feeling to know a mod can change the words that supposedly "I" posted, you know?

Thanks for keeping it all organized though-I do appreciate a tidy forum!
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: groovey1 on April 04, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
Taking a closer look at the back of the RC-505, I see there's only one foot-switch connection -- CTL 1,2 / EXP.

I guess you really will have to use your hands to run this thing. Too bad, but maybe that will save me from spending money and just focus on getting to know the RC-300 better. I have to admit, the initial gas-attack when I saw the video with the 5 tracks and the flashing lights was pretty strong!
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on April 04, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
QuoteI guess you really will have to use your hands to run this thing.

Or a good sized MIDI foot pedal

Looks like there are several MIDI CC#  assignments available on the RC-505

QuoteThe RC-505 also supports computer integration via USB and operation with external pedals and MIDI, opening a world of advanced looping possibilities for all types of musicians.

http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-505/ (http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-505/)

Specs
http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-505/ (http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-505/)

If you can use google translate - much RC-505 info is at Roland Japan site
http://www.roland.co.jp/products/jp/RC-505/ (http://www.roland.co.jp/products/jp/RC-505/)


(Japanese to English Translation below)
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Performance can be equipped with a unique five-track loop.

RC-505 is a new line-up of LOOP STATION RC series can play fast phrases that came up repeatedly. In the RC series adopts the tabletop will be the first, of course vocalist, voice, percussion, the human beat box, it can be used in wide range of players, regardless guitarist / bassist and musician musical instrument electric / acoustic, playing style and genre you.
RC-505 is equipped with a five-track loop body. By combining free loop length and tempo, and play mode, you can create a variety of solo performance. In addition, you can play in addition to the five tracks, while playing the rhythm tempo that is set in advance, and record. Built-in rhythm patterns and many other rock drums and Latin percussion. You can choose from a rich pattern to match the genre of the song you want to play.
Combination of five tracks and rhythm can be stored in the body up to a maximum of 99 types of memory as a phrase, to achieve stereo recording of up to about 3 hours.
Create a loop phrase Colorful FX input for recording.

RC-505, you can apply effects to the sound input, such as a guitar / bass and vocals. 21 built-in FX for the recording input type. And distortion for vocal effect wild "VOCODER" operating, the voice as a carrier sound, including "GUITAR TO BASS" varying the bass sound "SLICER" cut, the guitar continuously sound was recorded such as a robotic voice, is equipped with many effective vocal effects. In addition, you will be able to control the depth of the effect in real time knob "INPUT FX" of the body.
In addition, the set [A] ~ to [C] button, the effect frequently used to be called quickly even in effect at the touch of a button and you could be playing.
Track with FX to give accent to the song and deployment.

In addition to the input FX, RC-505 is equipped with a unique dedicated FX track playback track. Such as "VINYL FLICK" it is possible to freely control the speed of rotation of the turntable knob "TRACK FX" of the body, accented songs, real-time effects to liven up the live performance and standby. By combining the FX + Track input FX, can produce a sound never before this is possible.
User interface that can be controlled intuitively by hand.
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RC-505 is equipped with a loop for each indicator to track. State of the track, the position of the loop to display the playback level. 1 rotates one indicator bar at the time of recording such as flashing tempo, play loop can be performed while visually checking the state of the track. In addition, the button record / playback button adopts a large easy to press with your fingertips. You can know the state of play / overdub / record instantly at any stage in the dark illuminated. In addition, also equipped with a dedicated slider on each track. You can adjust the volume of the track slider speedy operation.
Simultaneous stop start / all tracks can be operated simultaneously at the touch of a button. For example, create a break point in the performance, dynamic performance can be performed.
It can be also features undo / redo, redo the recording and overdubbing, increasing the degree of completion of the phrase is possible.
Rich input jacks that correspond to the various instrument input.

RC-505 is compatible with the microphone input, guitar / bass, keyboard, and audio players, a wide range of devices. INST jacks corresponding pin XLR phantom-powered mic input, stereo. Performance can also also includes AUX input terminal can be connected to MP3 players, while playing a backing track.
In addition, the headphone connection is also supported, external pedal. It is useful if you can also output to headphones only sound rhythm, used as a clicking sound rhythm sound. And foot switch: (Roland EV-5 sold separately) expression pedal CTL1, terminal 2/EXP: hitch (optional FS-5U, FS-6), controlled by the foot and features a variety of parameters can be .
Import / Export is possible with USB. Cooperation with external MIDI equipment.

You can connect the USB cable to a personal computer. In addition to exchanging data and PC audio in real time, you can also make sure you have loop phrases pre-loaded as backup and data, the WAV file on the PC.
In addition, that can be combined with an external MIDI device such as a foot controller, or synchronize a MIDI cable to connect the two RC-505, greatly expands the range of performance.
Loop recording cases

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The RC-505 can have the following features controlled from an external MIDI device.  For more detailed information please see pages 25 and 29 of the RC-505 Owner's Manual :

Syncing to an external MIDI device via MIDI clock.
Start/Stop of ALLTracks using the MIDI start command FA and the MIDI stop command FC. See pages 29 and 17 of the RC-505 Owner's Manual for the correct configuration of Controller Assignment and Control Sources to make this happen.
Switching Phrase Memory 1-99 via Program Change messages 1-99.
Receiving Control messages [CC#1 - #31, CC#64-#95].
More information on what CC#1-#31 & CC#64-#95 do please visit the MIDI Manufacturer's Association and download the MIDI Implementation Chart found under the Specifications button.
If you do not have the RC-505 Owner's Manual you can download it from the Roland product page found here:

http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=manuals&p=RC-505
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Now_And_Then on April 06, 2013, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: groovey1 on April 04, 2013, 04:03:06 PM
Taking a closer look at the back of the RC-505, I see there's only one foot-switch connection -- CTL 1,2 / EXP.

That's exactly what I went and looked at too.

I have no idea why they didn't put a jack for a RCC cable so that one could buy and plug in an FC-300. It seems such an obvious thing to have done.

It seems that EHX is, (well, to the best of my knowledge, anyway,) the only company that has done this right: the main body of the device can be put on a tabletop, and has a footswitch with a fairly expansive array of controls that can be put on the floor.

On the other hand, if there is going to a an elaborate foot controller that will be connected via the DIN connnectors, that could make this a much more expensive looper than it already is...

The RC-505 is really not usable for me if its foot-switchable functions are as limited as they appear, judging by the single "CTL 1,2 / EXP" connector.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Threeleggedyoyo on April 06, 2013, 12:29:23 PM
You can connect a Midi foot controller such as the FC1010. I'd be more concerned about being limited to 8 Assignments. But the lack of CTL inputs is not the limiting factor.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: pycraft on April 09, 2013, 08:03:04 AM
Quote from: Elantric on April 04, 2013, 03:06:40 PM

Its listed as 449 British pounds here:
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/pedals_s_detail.asp?stock=13040212540332 (http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/pedals_s_detail.asp?stock=13040212540332)

http://gbp.fx-exchange.com/usd/449-exchange-rates.html (http://gbp.fx-exchange.com/usd/449-exchange-rates.html)

which is $684USD

But in typical Roland fashion, I expect $599 USD MSRP.

It's not that different - UK prices include sales tax, US prices don't.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Ricoche on April 10, 2013, 08:19:59 PM
I live in Nagano-city, Japan.  The music shop nearby confirmed they'll initially be selling it on their floor for 54,999 yen.  That's about $550 USD.  They also said it "could" drop to 49,999 by the time they get it in May if allowed.  Thus I expect it to cost around $500 to $550.  Unless I change my mind, I'm on the list to acquire one when it's released in May here in Japan.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Bill Ruppert on April 10, 2013, 08:41:29 PM
Fantastic!
This just makes me wish I never played guitar and focused on mouth drums all these years!



Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: aliensporebomb on April 11, 2013, 09:29:23 AM
Amen.  My skill was finger drumming.  I was (allegedly) the best finger drummer at my elementary school though there were no head cuttin' duels to prove it. 

What a cool piece of kit, really.  5 loops versus the 3 in the RC-300.  If there's a way to use foot controls and perhaps a midi pedal to control the functions it might do the job.

So what advantages does this have over the RC-300?  What advantages does the RC-300 have over this?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Bill Ruppert on April 11, 2013, 09:46:32 AM
I was being sarcastic...
They should just add a turntable on both sides.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on April 11, 2013, 10:06:04 AM
For todays generation, as Beck sang 15 years ago "Two turntables and microphone" is where its at.
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In 2013, Roland would probably sell more RC-505's if they did include two phono preamps, probably nixed those by the bean counters for the final product release.
Must wait for RC-605 ;)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Hopkins on April 11, 2013, 02:19:02 PM
Looks good!  Impossible to say whether it will be better for guitarists until it can be properly tested - looking at the RC-300 Feature Requests (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=6065.0) thread is a reminder of how little that (admittedly very cool) demo addresses.  It is not even clear if there is a mic bypass which seems even more obvious for a DJ-focussed product.  Clear advantages though: five independent stereo tracks and visual feedback.  The cost and foot-switch disadvantages have already been pointed out - even though the street price is virtually the same as the RC-300 in the UK (£460 vs £430).  Perhaps we'll see the RC-300 drop in price slightly, but I expect that they will simply market them as similar products tailored for different requirements.

One thing that is clear (if not already from software products like Loopy): a foot-based interface is a massive limit.  Jabbing clumsily at widely spaced switches which have to be able to withstand 200kg of force is no match for five or even ten nimble digits.  Roll on mind control interfaces...
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Hopkins on April 11, 2013, 02:21:42 PM
Oh, it will be interesting to see if they have revised their settings and terminology (Loop Sync, Tempo Sync, etc.) to make more sense, or if they have just copied everything from the RC-300.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on April 11, 2013, 02:39:44 PM
Updated news.
http://www.rolandus.com/blog/2013/04/04/boss-rc-505-loop-station/ (http://www.rolandus.com/blog/2013/04/04/boss-rc-505-loop-station/)

Look like live Roland US  employees  talking to potential customers there !
(they are finally making headway on social media)

http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/rc-505_brochure.pdf (http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/rc-505_brochure.pdf)

http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-505/ (http://www.roland.com/products/en/RC-505/)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Csewell on April 11, 2013, 05:34:01 PM
I think the hands on requirements are a good thing. This will finally give beat boxers something to do with their hands instead of pretending to scratch records.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: groovey1 on April 12, 2013, 09:00:45 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: ETS on April 14, 2013, 11:59:00 AM
hi all.
Just want to explain my looper try outs.
I bought me a second rc 300 to have more tracks when synced.
I liked to use it as a sort of multitracker.
Bad experience.
The slave was much of the time 'too busy'.
I couldn't determine when the problem was happen.
Very frustrating.
Contacted roland.
Everything was running ok for them they said.
Don't know if others have synced a rc 300 to other gear or daw.
So I think I will sell my two rc 300 and buy the 505 instead.
Five tracks is super,three was not enough.
I think I can handle the start/stop buttoms of the 505 with my bare feets!
Nice looperdays for everybody.
sorry for my not the best english.....
emmanuel
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Threeleggedyoyo on April 14, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Hi emmanual.

I wonder why you got that error message so much. Were both RC-300s using the same firmware?

I have connected an RC-50 as a slave to an RC-300 and haven't got any errors like that. That might be another way to go.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: ETS on April 14, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Hi
thanks for quick reply.
Yes they had both version 1.3.
I was always looping with loop sync on and tempo sync off for all the six tracks and the number of bars was also set to free.
Maybe too unusual settings for both keeping synced together.
Any way,I think that the rc505 could be the final looper for me.
How did you used the 50 and the 300 together?
I have seen on the web that there were sync problems with the rc50,at least in the beginning.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Threeleggedyoyo on April 14, 2013, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: ETS on April 14, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Hi
thanks for quick reply.
Yes they had both version 1.3.
I was always looping with loop sync on and tempo sync off for all the six tracks and the number of bars was also set to free.
Maybe too unusual settings for both keeping synced together.

That set of settings has some known bugs. See this thread:

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=7354.0 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=7354.0)

I'd wager that if you turned loop sync off or tempo sync on you'd be good.

As for syncing the 300 and the 50, I haven't done it a lot. Just tried it out a couple times. Usually I'm in Single mode with Loop Sync off and Tempo Sync on, off the top of my head. No issues though.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: ETS on April 15, 2013, 02:29:14 AM
thanks for the link.
Didn't saw it.
I got nearly no freezes when using the rc300 stand alone.
So I was nearly sure that it was a sync problem.
Hope that the rc 505 runs his loops well in every para
etersetting.
Best regards
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Ricoche on April 30, 2013, 05:46:58 PM
Here's a new video I found on Youtube this week.

BOSS RC 505 loopstation Tutorial walkthrough review demo Elijah MC (official) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--gV9XEyhfU#)

BOSS RC 505 loopstation with iPad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEOn2SB8vcM#)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Ricoche on May 23, 2013, 05:19:49 PM
The Boss RC-505 is now shipping in Japan.  Mine just came through the door today.  I'll check it out asap and write some comments.  I noticed the manuals are still not online at Roland/Boss which is interesting.

The Boss RC-505 is now shipping in Japan.  Mine just came through the door today.  I'll check it out asap and write some comments.  I noticed the manuals are still not online at Roland/Boss which is interesting.

Update:

I'm really digging the Boss RC-505.  I think I'm going to like this MUCH better than the RC-300.  You can control this with your foot but it does require some setup with either the Pedal Assign or Midi.  It works fine when using with my synths.  You can also switch between memories without any GAP like in some of the other loopers.  Thus you can easily, with some initial setup, create verses, chorus, and bridge sections live.  Then you can change seamlessly to each section and back.  Indeed this looper "favors" using your hands more than your feet, so for guitar players it might be a tiny bit tricky but the Midi implementation looks good so I'm sure using an external controller will be ok.  As a keyboard player it's not too tricky to lift one hand and punch one of the nice shiny lit buttons.  I set this on top  of my Roland JX-8P and it fits perfectly.  The effects sound great and I find the RC-505 overall to be MUCH more user friendly than the RC-300 not that the RC-300 was bad to begin with.  This thing is going to be great on stage but again I'm speaking as a synth player primarily.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: dead_lizard on May 24, 2013, 02:49:42 AM
might be fun to link it with the vg99 via midi and use the d-beam to start and stop loops. i remember getting my rc50 to start and stop with the GK toggle.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Threeleggedyoyo on May 24, 2013, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: Ricoche on May 23, 2013, 05:19:49 PM
The Boss RC-505 is now shipping in Japan.  Mine just came through the door today.  I'll check it out asap and write some comments.  I noticed the manuals are still not online at Roland/Boss which is interesting.

The Boss RC-505 is now shipping in Japan.  Mine just came through the door today.  I'll check it out asap and write some comments.  I noticed the manuals are still not online at Roland/Boss which is interesting.

Update:

I'm really digging the Boss RC-505.  I think I'm going to like this MUCH better than the RC-300.  You can control this with your foot but it does require some setup with either the Pedal Assign or Midi.  It works fine when using with my synths.  You can also switch between memories without any GAP like in some of the other loopers.  Thus you can easily, with some initial setup, create verses, chorus, and bridge sections live.  Then you can change seamlessly to each section and back.  Indeed this looper "favors" using your hands more than your feet, so for guitar players it might be a tiny bit tricky but the Midi implementation looks good so I'm sure using an external controller will be ok.  As a keyboard player it's not too tricky to lift one hand and punch one of the nice shiny lit buttons.  I set this on top  of my Roland JX-8P and it fits perfectly.  The effects sound great and I find the RC-505 overall to be MUCH more user friendly than the RC-300 not that the RC-300 was bad to begin with.  This thing is going to be great on stage but again I'm speaking as a synth player primarily.

If you get a chance, I'd be very interested in a list of the Target and Source values used for making Assigns. Been trying to find that since the unit was announced.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on May 24, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
QuoteIf you get a chance, I'd be very interested in a list of the Target and Source values used for making Assigns. Been trying to find that since the unit was announced.

Here is a link to the Japanese Boss RC-505 Owners Manual
http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/jp/manuals/res/63052372/RC-505_j02_W.pdf (http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/jp/manuals/res/63052372/RC-505_j02_W.pdf)

Copy / paste the text into Google Translate to obtain English descriptions of all the RC-505 functions.
http://translate.google.com/ (http://translate.google.com/)

Here are the Control Assigns
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi412.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp208%2Felantric%2FRC-505_Assign1_zpsfd3f1726.png&hash=f7d1645fe6cf192660325aa8566f8ede49d7a7c7)

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi412.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp208%2Felantric%2FRC-505_Assign2_zps48c11fbc.png&hash=f89a18213b70338fe9a691e5369f70f5642bea79)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on May 24, 2013, 04:06:51 PM
Looks like these are expected by July 1st 2013 in USA
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/966275-REG/roland_rc_505_hands_on_loper_for_modern.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/966275-REG/roland_rc_505_hands_on_loper_for_modern.html)

Roland Canada Interview with the Japanese Roland engineer / developer of Boss RC-505
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frolandcanadaltd.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F04%2Fpaul-and-morami-san.jpg%3Fw%3D225%26amp%3Bh%3D300&hash=8861178fcc7118fa635218952168f853f33ab44f)
http://blog.roland.ca/tag/boss/ (http://blog.roland.ca/tag/boss/)

As mentioned in a recent blog post, one of the hits of the 2013 Frankfurt Musikmesse has been the new BOSS RC-505 Loop Station. During the show, I had the chance to interview Mr. Hideyuki Mamori (Mamori-san), Producer/Engineer for the BOSS RC-505. I asked him about his background, the inspiration for this great new Looper, artist reactions,  and what he is working on next.

How long have you been with Roland, and what products have you worked on before the BOSS RC-505?

I've been with Roland for eight years. As an Engineer, my first product was the BOSS RC-50 Loop Station. My first product as a Producer (team leader) was the BOSS VE-5.

When did you start working on the RC-505, and what was your inspiration?

We started working on the concept for the RC-505 about one and a half years ago. Our idea was to create something that offered dynamic control of loops for the live performer – not using prepared audio as a starting point like a DJ. Our target was of course Beatboxers, but also musicians playing dance music and electronica styles like ambient, dub step, and so on.

Why would a musician playing in these styles be interested in the RC-505?

I personally play guitar, but I also like ambient and electronica. I make music playing my guitar and using a PC, but I want to use the RC-505 myself because it is more fun than working only with the computer!

At the Musikmesse, Tioneb from France was one of the artists demonstrating the BOSS RC-505. What was his first reaction to it?

He understood the concept right away, and really liked our new effects like Beat Repeat and Beat Scatter. I like his RC-505 video, it is really good! Sometimes product videos are not so fun, but his video is like a live performance movie!

Another well-known Loop Artist that has created videos for the RC-505 is DUBFX from Australia. What were his first thoughts about RC-505?

He really liked the RC-505?s 5 tracks. He also very much liked that the loop length of each track could be set separately, and could also be very short (100 milliseconds!). He often uses loops that are only one beat.

You have a vision for a kind of "hybrid" performance style which combines prepared and live audio loops. Can you tell us about this?

The RC-505 has very good MIDI Sync features that allows it to connect with other gear plus computers and software. This is very important – it allows for this kind of hybrid performance style. Live performance is so fun!

Thank you, Mamori-san. In closing, can you tell us what you are working on next?

TioneB demonstriert den Boss RC-505 Looper auf der Musikmesse 2013
http://youtu.be/xc2ej4FZL6M (http://youtu.be/xc2ej4FZL6M)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Ed_Saxman on May 25, 2013, 01:38:25 AM
(translated from the RC-505 japanese manual)

MIDI  :o
It is possible to be tempo synchronized to MIDI clock from the USB port or terminal IN.
Using MIDI, You can be synchronized with the tempo of the DAW
You will be able to include, change the settings automatically to fit to play in the ensemble, the progress of the performance of the song.

:'( No love for our RC-300. Shame on you, Roland.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on May 25, 2013, 07:37:51 AM
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=p-Fs42juVpY&desktop_uri=/watch?v=p-Fs42juVpY (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=p-Fs42juVpY&desktop_uri=/watch?v=p-Fs42juVpY)


http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=p-Fs42juVpY&desktop_uri=/watch?v=p-Fs42juVpY (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=p-Fs42juVpY&desktop_uri=/watch?v=p-Fs42juVpY)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Ricoche on May 30, 2013, 04:56:16 PM
I've been working with the Boss RC-505 for about a week now and I'm very impressed by it.  So much so that I actually bought another one here in Japan.  My current setup is one Boss RC-300 Master connected to two RC-505 slaves.  I have found that the RC300 works best ( if not only best ) as a Master.  The two RC-505 loopers can work well either as a Master or Slave.  Tempo sync works awesome.  I have no issues at all keeping the three in sync.  I use this setup with my old synth gear and it's really been fun.  Start All and change memory works great and is instant across all devices.  The ONLY issue is that the Boss RC-300 cannot "Stop All" the two Boss RC-505.  No matter how I connect, the RC-505 Loop Stations will not respond to a Boss RC-300 "FC" Stop All command.  Thus I have to stop the RC-505 Loopers manually either by hand or foot. 

As a synth player these Boss RC-505 loopers are fantastic.  They sit very nicely up top most of my synths and the touch sensitivity of the start/stop pads are nice.  I LOVE the repeat effect and it works great on everything I throw at it.  Really cool.  Overall the effects are pretty good.

Another interesting point is that you can only select "ONE" target track for the foot pedal.  There's a shortcut talked about in the manual that will allow you to press a button or two to change your target track.  Then you can start/rec/stop using a foot pedal.  It might be a sticky point for some who want a "completely" hands off solution.  I don't believe you can midi program that target track change command just yet.  Yes, you can assign virtually anything to the pedal or midi jacks, but they only affect the target track.  This will make sense once you get the RC-505 and try to rec using a foot pedal.  It's not the same as the RC-300.

Finally, the build quality is not great with the RC-505.  For those who might try to use this on the floor, be careful.  Everything is flimsy about it.  I'm ok with it on a table or synth, but definitely would not put this on the floor.  The RC-505 is all plastic folks!

I think the RC-300 and RC-505 make a great combination.  The RC-300 will need to be Master and a workaround will be necessary to issue the FC stop command for Stop All.  Also, I've synced a drum machine and sequencer to the RC-505 triggered by the RC-300 via midi and it all syncs beautifully.  Love it!!
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Threeleggedyoyo on May 30, 2013, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Ricoche on May 30, 2013, 04:56:16 PM
I've been working with the Boss RC-505 for about a week now and I'm very impressed by it.  So much so that I actually bought another one here in Japan.  My current setup is one Boss RC-300 Master connected to two RC-505 slaves.  I have found that the RC300 works best ( if not only best ) as a Master.  The two RC-505 loopers can work well either as a Master or Slave.  Tempo sync works awesome.  I have no issues at all keeping the three in sync.  I use this setup with my old synth gear and it's really been fun.  Start All and change memory works great and is instant across all devices.  The ONLY issue is that the Boss RC-300 cannot "Stop All" the two Boss RC-505.  No matter how I connect, the RC-505 Loop Stations will not respond to a Boss RC-300 "FC" Stop All command.  Thus I have to stop the RC-505 Loopers manually either by hand or foot. 



Another interesting point is that you can only select "ONE" target track for the foot pedal.  There's a shortcut talked about in the manual that will allow you to press a button or two to change your target track.  Then you can start/rec/stop using a foot pedal.  It might be a sticky point for some who want a "completely" hands off solution.  I don't believe you can midi program that target track change command just yet.  Yes, you can assign virtually anything to the pedal or midi jacks, but they only affect the target track.  This will make sense once you get the RC-505 and try to rec using a foot pedal.  It's not the same as the RC-300.



So let me get this straight.

With the foot pedals, you can select a track, then push a third button to make an action happen on that track?

That's what I was hoping for for foot functionality. Otherwise the 8 assigns would get burned up really fast.

Also, the RC-300's Start/Stop All pedal can't be reprogrammed at all (stupid)! BUT you could program another button to send a Start/Stop command, I believe, as well as overload it so it stops the RC-300 too. That might work for you.

Sad to hear the build quality isn't that great. That's very unlike Boss. But I guess it's different with a unit designed to be used on a tabletop.

I think I'll be holding out for a version designed for foot use. I only barely got my 300 and still have a 50 if I really want more tracks. I hope a new foot-centric one still happens.

Oh, how is the Undo/Redo function? Much lag after engaging it?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Ricoche on May 30, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
Hi there,

In the Japanese manual on page 16 there is a memo next to the parameter Play: TargetTrack TRACK 1.

This says and I can confirm that when you press the "EXIT" button, the "Edit" pad button will flash green indicating that TRACK 1 is the current target track.  Now if you press and hold the "EXIT" button while pressing any of the other TRACK 2-5 "Edit" buttons, you can change this target track from TRACK 1 to lets say TRACK 3 for example.  THEN, if you have a Pedal assigned to REC, you can record a loop on that new current target track. 

So let's say I have the Boss RC-505 setup to REC using Pedal Assign 1.  I currently have my Target Track set for TRACK 1.  I am playing the guitar and simply can record my first loop using my foot onto target track 1.  Now is the difficult part.  If I'm in the middle of my jam using both hands and want to record a second track, I can't do that.  The reason is that I have to physically take my right hand away from the guitar and press hold EXIT while selecting EDIT for TRACK 2 to change the Target Track to TRACK 2.  Then I can continue playing the guitar and record using the foot pedal.

At the moment, there is no way ( that I can find ) to control the changing of the Target Track using a foot pedal rather than my hand manually holding Exit and pressing Edit. 

For synth players, vocalists, beat boxers, this may not be an issue.  However, for two handed instruments like a guitar or bass, it might be tricky unless you factor in changing the target track by hand into your song.

Perhaps there is another way and maybe this isn't such a big issue, but I thought it was worth mentioning in case people want to use the RC-505 completely hands free.  It may be difficult.

Hope this clarifies my original post a bit...laugh.  Thanks!!

Jim
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Ricoche on May 30, 2013, 05:44:50 PM
Hello again,

I haven't worked much with the Undo/Redo function on the Boss RC-505.  I did try it out though and can say I didn't detect any obvious lag or issues.  I must admit that with all the tracks now I don't overdub much but rather I just create new tracks instead.  I'm also getting the hang of timing my loops right so the redo function isn't used much either.  However, it looks like I can go back to any of the 5 tracks and undo my last overdub loop which is cool.  That would give you 5 additional tracks if you can work the undo/redo well for the last overdub.

Jim
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on May 31, 2013, 11:16:15 AM
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjimatwood.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F05%2Frc-505.jpg&hash=ccc330e258ca8d367dfe722a000f7384d3e3e82e)

http://jimatwood.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/boss-rc-505-loopstation-review-questions/ (http://jimatwood.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/boss-rc-505-loopstation-review-questions/)

By Jim Atwood
I just received notification that my new Boss RC-505 Loopstation was shipped. That means I'll likely have it in my hands to check out tomorrow afternoon or maybe morning even. I've been quite excited about this release mainly because of the five tracks, loop effects, and table top design. I'm also excited to use this not for what it was intended, a beat box looper, but rather a synth looper. I currently own the Boss RC-300 and while it's a very good looper, the Boss RC-505 has more features that I wished were on the RC-300. I have some questions though and I hope to answer them tomorrow when the Boss RC-505 arrives.

1. How much can I control the RC-505 with my feet? I am hoping I can start, stop, and overdub record with a foot pedal. Indeed I can do that with my hands, but there are some synth parts that might make this difficult. Having the option to start/stop/mute/continue would be fantastic.

2. Are the effects global or can I record or use the effects per loop track? I believe this is already answered in the demo videos and catalog, but I'd like to know for sure how flexible the effects are with looping.

3. MIDI! Oh yes! How well does the Boss RC-505 sync with a drum machine or the Boss RC-300. Likely the RC-505 has to be the master, but will a drum machine stay in sync? We'll see.

4. Boss RC-505 Manual – It will be nice to also have a manual to check out all the possibilities. Boss seems to be a little slow in releasing the manual. Likely I'll get a Japanese manual since I'm in Japan, but hopefully soon an English one will be posted.

5. Size! I'm very curious about how big the Boss RC-505 is and whether I'll be able to set it on a synth instead of a table or dedicated stand.

Those are basically the main questions I have. The five tracks is huge with the Boss RC-505. Although three was great, there is a lot you can do with five. Plus you can load or dump the tracks as WAV files for further editing in a DAW.

The Boss RC-505 is going to be a lot of fun. I just hope it allows me to do a little bit more with my feet using external pedals. I'll find out soon!!



    The Boss RC-505 Loop Station just arrived in the mail today!! I'm really excited about this. My first impression is that the box is really small. Is it possible that I could simply set this on top of my Roland JX-8P which has a pretty wide body. We'll see! I'll update again shortly.


    The Boss RC-505 is awesome!!! I'm really having fun using it with synths.

    I found that if you record five tracks in one memory bank, you can switch to the next memory bank in a seamless manner. This means "MEMORY 1? could be an Verse and "MEMORY 2? could be recorded as a chorus. Using a foot switch you can toggle between the two memories without any gap at all. You have to first make sure that the particular Memory or patch is setup to toggle between the memories and that you have any particular track running or drums running so that it will carry through the song. Basically you have to write into memory the way you want it to sound so that when you toggle back and forth, the drums and any desired tracks will play automatically.

    I also found you can toggle record using the assign pedal jacks but only to one particular target track. It looks like you'll have to use midi to either cycle through the target tracks OR rec start and stop using a midi foot controller. At least one target track is allowed via the foot pedal assign so you can record with no hands.

    I also found the on board drums to be rather dry and uninspiring. I expected this and will likely sync a drum machine or sampler. I plan to test syncing the RC-505 to other devices shortly.

    The effects are great and the overall workflow of the RC-505 is much better for me as a synth player. I found the Boss RC-505 sits perfectly on top of the Roland JX-8P which is one of my main synths now.

    I like the Boss RC-505 much much better than the RC-50 or RC-300, that is for sure. I'm tempted to dump the RC-300 for another RC-505 as these really make FANTASTIC recording boxes for synths. According to the manual you can tie two together and sync them up nicely. Interesting.



    You can auto rec/play with your foot for each track, BUT there is a caveat. You MUST manually issue the following command in order to change the target track that will be allocated to the rec/play foot pedal. The command is as follows:

    Press the [EXIT] button Note Play screen, you can see the target the current track. You can press the 1-5 track the [EDIT] button while holding down the [EXIT] button, you can switch the target track.

    Once you switch the target track you can then control it with your foot. Thus to my knowledge there is NO WAY you can rec/play each of the five tracks like on the Boss RC-300 without first issuing the shortcut command with your hands above first.

    For keyboard/synth players will likely not be a problem, but for guitar players it likely will. As a keyboard player when changing patches one can simply reach over and issue the change target track command. Then when ready, you can record and lay down a track with both hands on the keys. Then repeat the process.

    For guitar players I probably would still recommend the Boss RC-300. While for keyboardists, the Boss RC-505 is fantastic.



    Another interesting note. The Boss RC-505 manual indicates that the RC-505 can be slaved "tempo wise" via MIDI to another device. It doesn't have to be the RC-505. Does this work? I'm not sure yet, but it appears the Boss RC-505, "MAY" have fixed some of the Midi sync issues of the past with some of it's other devices. We'll see. In the past, the Boss RC-300 and RC-50 could only be the MASTER in order to sync. I'll try to update this comment after some testing.
   

    For those interested, there is no "Midi Implementation" chart in the Boss RC-505 manual. At the moment, Boss has not released any system exclusive info for the RC-505 or even CC data for midi. Hope they do so in the near future.


            Hello! The English version of the Boss RC-505 manual has not been posted yet on any of the English Roland websites. The Japanese manual however, is available at the Roland Japan website. Since my Boss RC-505 was purchased in Japan, it only had a hard copy of the Boss R-505 Japanese manual. I'm sure the English version will be out soon.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: groovey1 on June 01, 2013, 06:58:26 PM
Quote from: Ricoche on May 30, 2013, 04:56:16 PM
...  My current setup is one Boss RC-300 Master connected to two RC-505 slaves. ... Also, I've synced a drum machine and sequencer to the RC-505 ...

Wow ... thirteen tracks plus! That sounds like quite a setup. Do you have different instruments permanently dedicated to each RC,  or are you doing some kind of on the fly routing?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Ed_Saxman on June 02, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
 RC-505 English Manual: http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manuals/res/62121932/RC-505_e02_W.pdf (http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manuals/res/62121932/RC-505_e02_W.pdf)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: kumpfunk on June 09, 2013, 09:42:35 AM
this is a real step forward for Boss... good midi clocking, great real modern effects. I hope we can figure out how to use it as gtr players... or maybe they'll come out with the 506 for gtr players?

reading through the manual I did notice a couple of things:

1) FINALLY there's a metronome sound in the guide!!!! yay, it's for professionals... I've only been waiting for this for 9 years

2) no way to have only the metronome in the headphones without the loops? not professional... booo... do better!!!

aside from those 2 things that will probably only be applicable to me personally I think the thing looks really promising.

I hope they post a midi implementation chart soon
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: aliensporebomb on June 09, 2013, 10:11:44 AM
Now I'm wondering if I should wait on the RC300 and this and wait for the next "floor oriented" looper?  Not sure, not sure.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: groovey1 on June 09, 2013, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: aliensporebomb on June 09, 2013, 10:11:44 AM
Now I'm wondering if I should wait on the RC300 and this and wait for the next "floor oriented" looper?  Not sure, not sure.
Yeah, I can see why you might say that. It would be cool to get some of the new features in a floorboard looper. But I guess it depends on how long you're willing to wait: the RC-50 was announced in Jan 2006, the  RC-300 in Sept 2011. I wouldn't expect the next one to be out for a few years ... although that's just a guess, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: kumpfunk on June 09, 2013, 12:48:42 PM
I think 2015 will be the year of the new cool floor looper... judging by the time between the RC-300 and the RC-505
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: aliensporebomb on July 23, 2013, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: ETS on April 14, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Hi
thanks for quick reply.
Yes they had both version 1.3.
I was always looping with loop sync on and tempo sync off for all the six tracks and the number of bars was also set to free.
Maybe too unusual settings for both keeping synced together.
Any way,I think that the rc505 could be the final looper for me.
How did you used the 50 and the 300 together?
I have seen on the web that there were sync problems with the rc50,at least in the beginning.

This is late to the party but 1.3 is not the current version of firmware for the RC-300.  Current firmware is 1.5 (which may have come out around the time of your message).  Try updating?

That being said.  I'm torn.  I'm primarily a guitar player and could see myself using this - the whole idea that all the memory banks are seamless with no gap has me going "I could probably make it work for me as a guitarist" but I know that the  300 is built stronger/better with a metal casing and I'd probably get irritated having to control a major feature of it with  my hands.  I still have time to return my 300 - the better effects, more tracks are appealing.

The downside?  The loop aging/frippertronics mod won't work here since it doesn't have sub outs.  Not sure you could route the stereo headphone out to the aux in to perform a similar task here.  Maybe it could work?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: loopman on July 24, 2013, 03:22:43 PM
Ok,my thoughts about the rc 505,

first, it's not floor oriented and this is a great limit for me, especially in the live usage.
So, you'll say : connect your Roland FC-300 to the Midi In connector of the RC-505 and you'll have the control of many important functions,
but here is the Great lack for me,
in fact, by reading the manual, it doesn't tell you how to control with Midi CC's of my midi foot controller, some functions like:
-Recording
-Overdubbing
-Playing
-Stop
-Reverse
-Track selecting
-All Start/ All Stop

Also, the manual is not very clear by explaining how the RC-505 can receives the Midi Stop command received from my DAW or drum machine, for one or more tracks.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on July 26, 2013, 06:55:32 AM
my next purchase for sure, and I think i can manage without any extra midicontrollers. I'm using one Boss FS-5L Latching Footswitch now for start and odub with the DD20 the rest with my hands.
one Q , I can't find if I can loop the aux input , I guess that's a OK but I can't find that in the manual, anyone knows ??
and would the max one shot looptime be about 3 h ?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: loopman on July 26, 2013, 09:53:53 AM
the manual of the RC 505 lacks many important explanations, especially the way to control it and all its features with a Midi foot controller ( like my FC-300) by using Midi CC.
by reading a lot of posts and threads around the web, I've realized that the RC-505 is absolutely not a good choice for guitat and bass players.
You are forced to make many functions with your hands, so, you'll have not the possibility to use your feet in live concerts to control it.

It's a pity, because, in my opinion, the RC-505 has a lot of very powerful features not seen on the other loopers on the market.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on July 26, 2013, 10:23:12 AM
Quotethe manual of the RC 505 lacks many important explanations, especially the way to control it and all its features with a Midi foot controller ( like my FC-300) by using Midi CC.

See latest RC-505 "E-02" manual
http://media.rolandus.com/manuals/RC-505_e02_W.pdf (http://media.rolandus.com/manuals/RC-505_e02_W.pdf)
From Page 29

The RC-505 can be controlled using Control Change messages from external MIDI devices.

Receiving control change messages

You can use control change messages from an external MIDI device to control functions that would be
difficult to control using the RC-505's own controllers.
In "Specifying the Controller (Assign Source)" (p. 17), choose "CC#1–#31, CC#64–#95" and set "Specifying the
Assignment Target (Assign Target)" (p. 17) to specify the parameter that will be controlled.

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And Read Page 17 - On the Lower half of page is a list of the the 18 Assignable Target RC-505 parameters which can be controlled via external MIDI CC# messages.
Assigning the Function of FX knobs and External Controllers (Assign)
Here you can choose the Assignment Target. In addition to the following assignment targets, you can also specify a
track, rhythm, or a phrase memory parameter as the assignment target. For details on the parameters, refer to the
explanation of each parameter in this manual.
* Some parameters cannot be controlled during performance.


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Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: loopman on August 01, 2013, 02:11:25 AM
Hi Elantric, thanks for your suggestions,
now just remaining some matters still not clear to me :

by reading the manual, I see that the Midi Start and Midi Stop commands are not automatic, but I have to send a Midi CC manually, that is a source assigned to a target value, in my case the midi CC as a source assigned to the selection of the #track to be started or to be stopped.

But,this could be a little boring to do everytime,
also I don't know how to send midi cc from my Cubase 7, to send out the Midi Start and Stop commands to the RC-505.

On the other corner,I've read that the EHX 45000 is able to be slave to the Midi Clock/Start/Stop commands Automatically, without the need of insert any value.

any suggestion is still appreciated
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: umsoser on October 06, 2013, 04:37:49 AM


( I have connected an RC-50 as a slave to an RC-300 )


---- thank you for that . i have a rc50 and i am going to buy a rc300 to connect it as a master . i hope it works perfectly . thank you. any more information about the marriage of this two magines please tell me .
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: shawnb on October 06, 2013, 09:04:46 AM
Quote from: umsoser on October 06, 2013, 04:37:49 AM
---- thank you for that . i have a rc50 and i am going to buy a rc300 to connect it as a master . i hope it works perfectly . thank you. any more information about the marriage of this two magines please tell me .
Some brief notes on that topic here:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=6763.msg46870#msg46870 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=6763.msg46870#msg46870)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Audiofanzine on October 23, 2013, 12:30:20 AM
Hi Everyone!  For those who are still interested we just completed our full review and test of the RC505 loop station (http://en.audiofanzine.com/guitar-delay-echo-phrase-sampler/boss/rc-505-loop-station/editorial/reviews/looper-trooper.html).

Comments and suggestions most welcome!
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on November 08, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Roland has released updated Roland RC-505 Loop Station USB drivers:


OSX 10.9 Mavericks
http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=RC%2D505&id=63063973 (http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=RC%2D505&id=63063973)

Win8.1 64/32
http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=RC%2D505&id=63063953 (http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=RC%2D505&id=63063953)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: keith278 on January 21, 2014, 08:29:25 AM

On the RC-50 and the RC-300 the ability to switch on auto recording which allows both types of loopers to wait for a predetermined audio input level to trigger recording as I want to start the loop record when I play a chord on the guitar.

Can anyone tell me if this feature is available on the RC-505 and if it is not, is there another way around it.


Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: keith278 on January 27, 2014, 06:43:12 AM
Quote from: keith278 on January 21, 2014, 08:29:25 AM
On the RC-50 and the RC-300 the ability to switch on auto recording which allows both types of loopers to wait for a predetermined audio input level to trigger recording as I want to start the loop record when I play a chord on the guitar.

Can anyone tell me if this feature is available on the RC-505 and if it is not, is there another way around it.

The answer is it does not have this facility you have to use the loop quantise from when you press play record and will quantise to the nearest measure when you stop the recording.

I have just purchased a RC-505 for use with Guitar and other instruments so if you want any other information just ask.



Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on June 05, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
Good article about Jim Atwood and his THREE Boss Loop Stations

http://jimatwood.wordpress.com/ (http://jimatwood.wordpress.com/)
Triple Boss RC Loop Station MIDI Setup
Posted on June 3, 2014

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Today I managed to get the ALL START/STOP working with two RC-505s and a Boss RC-300. I now have a triple Boss RC Loop Station Midi Setup with 13 looping tracks that all work perfectly. I get quite a few questions about how to make this work and below is an example that does. I attached a photo to give readers a visual. Perhaps this week I'll do a walk through and demo on video. In my previous article there is a video of all of this working if you want to hear it in action after I recorded the loops.

My setup is as follows:

Boss RC-300 = MASTER
Boss RC-300 Midi Out to Roland TR-8 Midi In
Roland TR-8 Midi Out to Yamaha MJC8 Midi Patch Bay Midi In
Yamaha MJC8 Midi Patch Bay Midi Out 1 to Boss RC-505 #1 Midi In
Yamaha MJC8 Midi Patch Bay Midi Out 2 to Boss RC-505 #2 Midi In

Both RC-505?s have the following setup for Assign1 under MEMORY setup.

Assign1 Switch = ON
Assign1 Source = SYNC START/STOP
Assign1 Src Mode = MOMENT
Assign1 Target = ALL START/STOP

When you step on the Boss RC-300 ALL START pedal it will start the Roland TR-8 and both Boss RC-505 Loop Stations at the same time. You can specify which tracks to start automatically in the MEMORY setup section for each Boss RC Loop Station. If you want to keep your hands on the synthesizer or guitar and record to Track 1 of either the Boss RC-505 #1 or #2, you can use a ctrl pedal and assign to REC when pressed. You can also use the three tracks on the Boss RC-300 of course hands free as well.

In total, I now have 13 looping tracks that all can be started or stopped simultaneously. They are also in sync with one another as well of course. You can also bring in any external sequencer or drum machine AS LONG AS it accepts midi clock and passes that midi clock on through to the other machines.

IN NO WAY can you use ANY Boss RC-505 to act as MASTER to get this to work. You also CANNOT chain the RC-505 Loop Stations. You MUST use a Midi patch bay with another device set to Master. The Boss RC-300 will work or the Roland TR-8 which I have tested also. Using the RC-505 again will not work. It's MIDI start command is flawed. Likely the Boss RC-50 will also work as MASTER. I have the RC-50 but haven't tried it as I much prefer the RC-300 in this setup.

The key is to not chain the RC-505 Loop Stations and to not use them as Masters period!!

Hope this helps others clear up sync, all start/stop, and track control issues.

Jim :)
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Hopkins on June 05, 2014, 11:52:21 PM
Holy guacamole!
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Syph on September 02, 2014, 04:48:37 AM
Hey guys,

I was having a look at the RC505 the other day and from what I could find it seems that the only foot control available for the unit is the 8 assignments. Just wanted to check, did I miss anything?

It strikes me as crazy that 5 tracks only has 5 assignments. If they had upped the assignments to (at least) 10 we could at least use an FCB1010 and then use it as a beefed up version of the RC300. 2 buttons per track, mapped to multifunction rec/dub/play and stop/erase loop, though that would require improvements to the assignment targets as well as just the number of assignments. Damn you roland... back to waiting for RC300 v1.10 firmware...
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: chrish on October 15, 2015, 11:45:53 AM
So the verdict is that the rc505 will not perform the shawnb frippertronics modification because there are no subouts. Correct?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on March 02, 2016, 12:44:11 AM
Has anyone experience cut off reverb tails when recording a loop or playing through this unit ?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on May 15, 2016, 09:02:04 AM
There's a problem with a built in noise gate that cuts of reverb tails and makes a unpleasant stutter.
There seems to be no way to acces the threshold , but my guess is that you can from Sysex , anyone got any clue to how to go about the problem. ...?????

It's the sounds going in to the looper that are cut off , not the built in fx
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on August 19, 2016, 01:59:10 AM
Version 2 is out
Does anyone know if there's a firmware update to download ?
Can't find anything about it
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on August 19, 2016, 07:13:11 AM
QuoteVersion 2 is out

Its available at the Boss RC-505 Downloads area here
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/rc-505/updates_drivers/9e1ca86c-873d-4b78-bbab-18f2d853e50f/

"RC-505 version 2.0: Newly Added Features

Up to three effects can be used simultaneously in both the Input FX and Track FX sections
New effects types, including Ring Modulator, Slow Gear, Pitch Bend, and others
Extended parameters added to previous effects, including dotted and triplet note values for tempo syncing
New targets for external foot control, ideal for musicians who play guitar, keyboards, and other instruments
Assign functions have been increased from 8 to 16, providing expanded performance control via the front panel, external footswitches, expression pedal, and MIDI
Enhanced Phrase Memory functions such as individual track monitoring via headphones, quantized loop recording, and more
Added system functions, including loop indicator status settings and more"

Update history
[ Ver.2.00 ] JUN 2016
Additional Functions
Improved looper functionality
We added looper operation options in order to optimize live performance.
Improved effect functionality
INPUT and TRACK FX each allow you to use up to three effects simultaneously.
Improved control functionality
Control functionality via external pedal or MIDI has been added.
Please refer to the "RC-505 Version 2.0 Supplementary Manual" for detailed information in the [ Owner's Manuals ].

[ Ver.1.12 ]
Bug Fix
The following bug was fixed.
When UNDO function was executed at the particular timing, an error message appeared.
[ Ver.1.11 ]
Bug Fixes
The following bugs were fixed.
When you switch to a phrase memory with a different tempo, the delay effect sounded incorrectly.
When a delay with "Time = notes" had been set to the phrase memory on start-up, the delay effect sounded incorrectly.
When you perform "REDO" function on "REVERSE = ON" setting, it could not playback in reverse.


New RC-505 2.0 supplementary manual
https://www.boss.info/global/products/rc-505/support/

https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RC-505_V2_e02_W.pdf

Improved looper functionality
We added looper operation options in order to optimize live performance.
& "Phrase Memory Settings"
Improved effect functionality
INPUT and TRACK FX each allow you to use up to three effects simultaneously.
& "Using Effects A–C Simultaneously"
Improved control functionality
Control functionality via external pedal or MIDI has been added.
& "Assigning the Function of FX Knobs and External Controllers (Assign)"
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on August 19, 2016, 07:58:39 AM
Thanx , couldn't find it

Anyone heard about if there's a reverb tail fix ?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on November 01, 2016, 11:51:34 AM
Thanks to the one day Halloween sale at Pro Guitar shop ( 20% off )
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3207.msg139171#msg139171


I will have a RC-505 arriving soon
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on November 01, 2016, 12:47:16 PM
Internal micro_SD Card memory ( 4GB)
(https://s6.postimg.cc/y9uvhoqyp/RC_505_micro_SD_memory.png)

https://youtu.be/-L3gdoQyRN8

https://youtu.be/BdXbNVqis5E

https://youtu.be/7tAJRngAqkE

https://youtu.be/-09tcKkkGwk

https://youtu.be/MAiN8L1gBGQ

https://youtu.be/lK2R8XxBsGo


https://youtu.be/lsH6MIATah0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwiHjK33MYo&list=RDDwiHjK33MYo#t=4
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on November 01, 2016, 01:39:42 PM
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Oopah Loopah Ver 7.1 welcomes the new Captain onboard. Introducing the Boss RC505. For the past almost 6 years the Boomerang III + Sidecar has served me well as a valuable and reliable main looper. In the past week of trials and crash test experiments with the RC505, it has stood it's own proving to be a worthy contender to take over from where the Rang has served reliably and some of the brow raising discoveries include the tight syncing between these 2 units. The Rang will be set aside for now but will be on close standby. (In this pic) The Boss RC505 (above) and the Boomerang III + Sidecar (below) Randolf Arriola (Live Loop
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on November 02, 2016, 02:47:53 AM
I'm bumping this


QuoteThere's a problem with a built in noise gate that cuts of reverb tails and makes a unpleasant stutter.
There seems to be no way to acces the threshold , but my guess is that you can from Sysex , anyone got any clue to how to go about the problem. ...??
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on November 02, 2016, 05:18:41 AM
I detest Noise gates myself, and prefer to use gear with high dynamic range, If I have a noisy Distortion pedal, I use it judiciously and prefer to self gate the noise using a volume pedal in front of the looper  - but I expect the Built in FX in any Looper product to  be an after thought and not as good as dedicated FX 

The bummer is the Looped audio on Roland RC-300, RC-505 pedals appears to be 16 bit , (not 24 bit)

My big hunt at the moment is locating the Roland RC-505 Complete MIDI Implementation doc
But this is rather hopeless
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on November 02, 2016, 05:25:29 AM
It's not the built in fx , this is a noise gate on the input
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Elantric on November 02, 2016, 05:43:20 AM

here is another thread where RC-505 noise is mentioned

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-electronic-music-production/1066967-boss-rc-505-loop-station-background-noise-hiss.html
QuoteYou either have a defective looper, or it's set up wrong, or the signal being input into the looper is noisy.

To ensure that the RC-505 is set up correctly, read throught the setup procedure in the manual. It tells you how to set the input and output volumes.

It's possible that you could have gain staging problems in your mixer, or a hardware defect in the mixer that's causing the problem. To determine if your input signal is noisy, plug a set of headphones into the jack on your mixer that's feeding the RC-505. Is the sound noisy through the phones?
Its important to know the Noise floor of each FX in the signal chain

I suspect noise is a result of improper gain staging 
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/boss/rc-505-loop-station-g5570/
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on November 02, 2016, 06:06:11 AM
This is not about hiss and noise going into the 505 , the problem is that it has a built in noise gate that cuts FI reverb tails or every very low volume sound and the result is a stuttering sound not pleasant.
And there's no way to turn it off or change the threshold unless one can access it through Sysex or a midi that's not in the manual.

The problem occurs with reverb tails , there's no way to loop a ECMish sound , it doesn't matter that the signal going to the rc505 is clean, I did record the same sound into a roland SPDX and looped that with perfect result.
The same with my old looper DD-20
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on November 05, 2016, 05:41:32 AM
No one experienced this ?
Anyone ?


QuoteI'm bumping this


There's a problem with a built in noise gate that cuts of reverb tails and makes a unpleasant stutter.
There seems to be no way to acces the threshold , but my guess is that you can from Sysex , anyone got any clue to how to go about the problem. ...??

Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on August 05, 2017, 01:33:19 AM
update about the Noise Gate issue.
The firmware update 2.0.0 have adressed this problem.
the noise gate threshold is now available under System settings.
no stutter and cut off reverb tails anymore
as well as many new functions in other areas.
I can highly recommend RC505 after this update
( I wish that Roland/Boss would go about flaws in the design of other products as well , fi SY-300 )
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on August 05, 2017, 06:06:59 AM
 Thank you


New Manual
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RC-505_V2_e02_W.pdf


and for what it's worth when folks complain why no new Boss GK 13 pin products,  here's a perfect example.
realize the very same Roland /Boss engineering team that works on GK processors  is also the same team that are working on many other -Roland Boss. products  - including the RC-505  and Katana and MS-3 ,etc , so the typical workload for them is a bit like putting out fires and management coordinating priorities on where to apply their engineering effort's

Happy the RC-505 fell into their focus for new firmware.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Beirne on August 06, 2017, 12:10:58 PM

So have you solved the remote foot control issue by just pressing the hand buttons with your feet?

Quote from: admsustainiac on November 01, 2016, 01:39:42 PM
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Oopah Loopah Ver 7.1 welcomes the new Captain onboard. Introducing the Boss RC505. For the past almost 6 years the Boomerang III + Sidecar has served me well as a valuable and reliable main looper. In the past week of trials and crash test experiments with the RC505, it has stood it's own proving to be a worthy contender to take over from where the Rang has served reliably and some of the brow raising discoveries include the tight syncing between these 2 units. The Rang will be set aside for now but will be on close standby. (In this pic) The Boss RC505 (above) and the Boomerang III + Sidecar (below) Randolf Arriola (Live Loop
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on August 06, 2017, 12:56:56 PM
Quote from: Beirne on August 06, 2017, 12:10:58 PM
So have you solved the remote foot control issue by just pressing the hand buttons with your feet?

Contact the source


http://www.imgrum.org/media/1327925578581928141_1531883054
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: chrish on October 18, 2017, 12:51:19 PM
Quote from: Elantric on November 02, 2016, 05:18:41 AM
I detest Noise gates...
I'm with you on that one. I'd rather hear the noise all the time then only when I play a note. Nothing like hearing the same Out Of Tune pitch noise on every note you play.

Maybe instead of a Noise Gate, there could be something like a 'pitched noise gate' that gives the noise the same pitch as the note your playing.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on October 18, 2017, 01:36:37 PM
Quote from: chrish on October 18, 2017, 12:51:19 PM
I'm with you on that one. I'd rather hear the noise all the time then only when I play a note. Nothing like hearing the same Out Of Tune pitch noise on every note you play.

Maybe instead of a Noise Gate, there could be something like a 'pitched noise gate' that gives the noise the same pitch as the note your playing.

I just use my ears, and select gear within my budget which exhibits the  most dynamic range, with distortion free headroom and lowest noise floor 
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http://libremusicproduction.com/answer/noise-floor

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A lot of noise can be eliminated with proper cabling and correct gain staging at each element in the signal chain

https://ledgernote.com/columns/studio-recording/gain-staging/
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: chrish on October 18, 2017, 03:47:46 PM
Yes even something as simple as a power cord running parallel to an audio cord will create noise.

I was surprised when I encountered noise on an acoustic guitar patch on the VG 99 that was only there when each note was being played. I looked at the creators patch parameters and sure enough The Noise Gate was turned on. Turning the Noise Gate off produced the constant noise.

So I did as you suggest and checked the many gain stages and adjusted those but the noise, while softer, is still present. I guess I don't quite understand how noise is a factor in DSP code.

I was quite surprised to see how quiet my newly-acquired analog GR300 and GR100 are. Even the spicetone 6appeal can become very quiet when the gain stages are turned down.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on October 19, 2017, 12:22:50 AM
Quote from: admsustainiac on November 01, 2016, 12:47:16 PM
Internal micro_SD Card memory ( 4GB)
(https://s6.postimg.cc/y9uvhoqyp/RC_505_micro_SD_memory.png)


Is it possible to change sd card to a bigger one like on Roland Spd-sx ?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on October 19, 2017, 12:29:43 AM
Quote from: chrish on October 18, 2017, 12:51:19 PM
I'm with you on that one. I'd rather hear the noise all the time then only when I play a note. Nothing like hearing the same Out Of Tune pitch noise on every note you play.

Maybe instead of a Noise Gate, there could be something like a 'pitched noise gate' that gives the noise the same pitch as the note your playing.

If the noise level is so high that one hears it while playing then something is off.

When I started mastering CDs instead of only vinyl , the recording media was still tape.
So instead of having digital silence in the pauses , tape noise was inserted in the pause at a low level.
That said I use noise gate a lot without any problem as long as the threshold and release works fine
and the noise is at a low level to start with
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: chrish on October 19, 2017, 09:27:52 AM
Quote from: Brak(E)man on October 19, 2017, 12:29:43 AM
If the noise level is so high that one hears it while playing then something is off.

When I started mastering CDs instead of only vinyl , the recording media was still tape.
So instead of having digital silence in the pauses , tape noise was inserted in the pause at a low level.
That said I use noise gate a lot without any problem as long as the threshold and release works fine
and the noise is at a low level to start with
the noise that I was describing on that VG 99 acoustic guitar patch is not very noticeable at high volumes but I play at very low volumes these days due to tinnitus issues.

there are so many gain stages in the vg-99 including starting at the sensitivity settings for the hex pickup. It seems like the creator of that patch must have heard the noise also because the Noise Gate was on.

But the thing is that it's the best patch for acoustic modeled tone that I've encountered.

Running it with the Noise Gate off is preferable to having what kind of sounds like a low volume snare sizzle kick in every time I play a note.

If I go to something like the factory Jazz guitar chorus patch, I don't hear any of that type of noise.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Brak(E)man on October 19, 2017, 10:49:51 AM
Quote from: chrish on October 19, 2017, 09:27:52 AM
the noise that I was describing on that VG 99 acoustic guitar patch is not very noticeable at high volumes but I play at very low volumes these days due to tinnitus issues.

there are so many gain stages in the vg-99 including starting at the sensitivity settings for the hex pickup. It seems like the creator of that patch must have heard the noise also because the Noise Gate was on.

But the thing is that it's the best patch for acoustic modeled tone that I've encountered.

Running it with the Noise Gate off is preferable to having what kind of sounds like a low volume snare sizzle kick in every time I play a note.

If I go to something like the factory Jazz guitar chorus patch, I don't hear any of that type of noise.

I also play on very very low volume due to severe tinnitus and hyper accusis , but do you mean that
the noise is more noticeable in the same patch played at a low level ?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on September 06, 2018, 08:18:15 PM
https://youtu.be/ASUS9mScg4M
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on February 07, 2019, 04:15:56 PM
https://rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/208143263-RC-505-Backing-Up-the-Internal-Memory-to-a-Computer
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on February 07, 2019, 08:45:29 PM
Look at the EHX 95000
https://www.ehx.com/products/ehx-95000
(https://www.ehx.com/assets/jpg640h/95000.jpg)
https://youtu.be/CEyX4EI4K5A
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on February 07, 2019, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from:  philjynx on February 07, 2019, 08:50:07 PM

I'll do that, tho it has barefoot unfriendly switches. Still, not buying for a while & knowledge doesn't hurt.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Z7sg-FpBL._SL1000_.jpg)
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https://www.amazon.com/Effects-Footswitch-Protection-Effectfor-Colorful/dp/B07CWXH1WY

else

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201707211055766933-french-singer-electrocuted-stage/
Police in France have launched an investigation after a rising star of the music scene died in a tragic accident while performing barefoot on stage. Barbara Weldens, 35, is thought to have been electrocuted on Wednesday night (July 19).

She was performing at the Festival Leo Ferre in a small Roman Catholic church in Gourdon, a picturesque village perched high above the French Riviera.

The circumstances of her death are unclear and are being investigated by the local gendarmerie.

Ms. Weldens, who was in the habit of singing barefoot, suddenly collapsed in the midst of the performance and is believed to have suffered a cardiac arrest.

It is thought she may have stepped on a live cable.

Police are analyzing several videos taken by members of the audience on the night. 

The Festival Leo Ferre, which was due to run until Friday (July 21) was immediately canceled as a mark of respect for the chanteuse.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 20, 2019, 05:14:42 AM

Yes, you are correct. For example my buddy does a funk/Barry White goof track with the guitar to bass effect on his voice and he sounds like Barry, no lag. He also has gigged 2.5 years with it on the floor using it with his feet. Over 500 shows with not one hiccup or glitch.

He inspired me to get one, which led to me getting a glance at a GR-55/GP-10 and the rest is history. Its such a powerful tool. I had an old Zoom G9 2.tt modeler around and that became my midi controller sleeper second guitar track. It has three control pedals on it and with a midi Y cable out I control them both flawlessly. So The 505 responds awesome to midi, enough where you can have it off the floor if you want. I love the reverse track. Its instant reverse guitar lushness. So YES, it is a force multiplier in terms of effects alone. And as far as 'How does it sound?' Here is a track with everything into the RC-505 into a Yamaha Stagepass PA with mixer into a Zoom digital field recorder, No production, Live recording, its my buddy DOVYDAS and it shows you him from behind using the RC-505 as a reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGEGL6gUMjA
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 20, 2019, 10:21:22 AM
In situation "A"  it will stop recording and sych with loop start.

In situation "B" it will stop recording and link to loop start, and remain 16 beats.

It has extensive control in  "Track 1-5 Settings" , "Loop Synch" , "Quantize"  on page 12-16 in the first issue manual.

If your set to "auto" , the situation you describe will not happen because your first track of 16 measures is looping or synching , so their is no 'after' the 16 measures.

"Quanatize" will also catch off timed events and synch properly depending on how you want it.


You also can change the order of :


Recording > Overdub > Playback

Recording > Playback > Overdub

So in this case the Quantize would auto synch you, even if your late, playback will be happening and you can still overdub or continue to layer or retry.

Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 20, 2019, 01:11:08 PM
Describe what you want to do , so I can follow you better. If you want a 16 and a 32 simultaneously on separate tracks you can do that no problem. Whats a 'multiply' function? I'm not familiar with that one.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: aliensporebomb on March 20, 2019, 02:09:38 PM
Pigtronix infinity has a feature called Sync Multi.   Sync Multi mode lets you set the length of loop 2 to 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 times the length of loop 1.

I'm somewhat wondering if my RC-300 has a similar-esque feature which would apply to the RC-505.   I'm about 10 miles away from my equipment, I'll check when I return.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Syph on March 21, 2019, 01:28:07 AM
I have extensive experience on the RC300 and from what I have read the 505 seems the same in this regard.
You can set the loop lengths manually in advance, ie, track 1 loops for 2 bars, track 2 loops for 4 bars, etc
There are also options to set loop length to Auto, so the length of the first loop sets the length of other loops. In practice this means a 2 bar loop on track 1 means a 2 bar loop on track 2, 3, etc
There is also a setting called "Free", when in free looping mode it will allow loops on subsequent tracks to be multiples or divisions of the first loop length, but it goes one step further.
The first loop recorded will (via deduction) set the tempo. Once the tempo is set, any subsequent loops will be ANY number of bars long. I use the RC300 with preset tempos, but no preset bar length. This lets me record ANY length phrase, as long it is a multiple of A BAR in that tempo.
So I can freely record 1 bar on track/loop 1, then 17 bars on track/loop 2, then 43 bars on track/loop 3.
This also works the other way, in that I can record a 19 bar loop on track/loop 1, then record a 1 bar loop on track/loop 2, etc etc

I use mobius extensively as well, and whilst I appreciate various elements of Mobius's flexibility, there are elements of the RC300 and 505 that are far more user friendly. For example, on Mobius all quantised events are synced to the next beat/bar/etc, where as with the RC's it rounds more to the nearest bar. So (once tempo is set) if you are a fraction of a beat late closing a loop, it will round the action BACKWARDS to the previous bar, and not wait till the next bar 3 and a half beat away.

I'll admit that my ideal looper would be a combination of features from the RC300/505, Mobius, and Ableton. The RC ease of use (and those pedals, I love those pedals!), the flexibility of Mobius scripting, and the warping engine of Ableton, not to mention the FX available in Ableton... (gush)

Anywho, hope that helps a bit.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 21, 2019, 07:20:41 AM

Allowances, your funny ;D  In this example if you have loop synch OFF. These two tracks will do what you described as long as you are in time, unsynched. They would be naturally synched by your timing. Each track can be selected on or off, so you can have both working if you wanted. Say Track 1 and 2 Synched for rhythm purposes and 3 , 4 , 5 free to do what you want.

I operate the same way you described earlier, I am a spontaneous , let it fly kind of by the seat of your pants player. I love the freedom and what comes out. So in order to do this I program patches to accomplish what I set out to do each session or piece of music. You have 99 user patches so it makes it a lot of fun.

And as you described earlier, using this unit as an 'effects unit' is a whole other world. That's how I also use it in my rig. I can perform entirely solo, or integrate the effects from my GIANT tool box. And by creating these 'tools' , each being accessed by a midi controller or patch is a lot of fun. Its taken my composition and songwriting to the next level. It took time to learn the gear, write the road map and apply the new toolset or integrate it live time, but undeniably time well spent or invested.

Slow Gear, Pitch Bend, Slicer,  Roll, Granular, Beat Scatter, Robot, Reverse Playback , are insane effects that are midi patch or controller accessed. So its a lot to work with and all able to synch to beat if need be, ie dotted whatever on the midi clock as well. Added a lot of toys to my playpen.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on March 21, 2019, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from:  philjynx on March 21, 2019, 08:29:47 AM
I have a headache now. I've just been comparing the RC300 and RC505 manuals, they do indeed seem to be similar as suggested by Syph.What isn't clear is what happens if you play those three loops together?
I always had problems writing user manuals for my software, it's difficult to translate geek into human terms.
I have a Zoom R8 - a good gizmo but the manual is written in Vogon.
Likewise, Roland/Boss manuals appear to be written in Roland, neither English nor American (or any known language for that matter).
Bet it does what I want and I'm just not getting it :'(

Part of the obtuse layer when deciphering Roland / Boss Manuals

* They are written in Japanese and often latest product manuals are more of an Addendum to the prior generation owners Manual  - for example if you want to understand the VGuitar Modeling in your new Boss GP-10 - its best to start by reading the Manuals for VG-8, then  VG-88, then VG-99, then GR-55, then GP-10  - as many important concepts covered in more detail is only found in the older manuals   

* After a new Roland / Boss Product Manual is created in Japan, its sent to Roland Netherlands to be translated from Japanese into Dutch.

* After Roland Netherlands Dutch Manual is created, its then translated from Dutch into all other languages (English, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Portuguese, French, etc.

 
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on March 21, 2019, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from:  philjynx on March 21, 2019, 11:13:19 AM
They should hire Katsunori UJIIE to write their manuals, in English and Japanese. Life would be easier and a lot  more fun.


Look him up on YouTube.

only issue is the word "hire" implies a mutually agreed to exchange of monetary funds, which none are available   -

Will he accept a T-Shirt?
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Syph on March 22, 2019, 03:46:05 AM
Ha, oh yeah, right....

So I only work in multitrack mode on the RC300, and I forget that serial/single track play mode exists...
Sorry about that, should have started that clearly.
Multi mode is technically "Single track play mode: Off", and allows multiple loops to play at the same time so you can bring ideas/layers in and out, where as single track play mode will only play one loop at a time, practically making song sections like Verse/chorus/etc...
I also work with the drum machine typically at preset tempos, but I'll sometimes tap a tempo in as needed to start a thingy.
So, with that in mind:
I can have 3 simultaneous loops/tracks playing with any number of bar lengths per loop. So I could have a 1bar drum beat on loop1, with a 3 bar bass line on loop 2, and a 17 bar melody on loop 3, all playing seamlessly synced together.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 22, 2019, 07:41:44 AM
In manual V.2 they made additional changes to the lights. The circle does follow the tracks position. So if you have "Synch" off and each track is on its own. The lights will represent each track on its own. So I could have 5 different time measures playing and it would represent it accordingly. Each track would have its own length also.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Syph on March 22, 2019, 01:43:41 PM
Right, well, in that case;
YES
  ;D
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Syph on March 22, 2019, 06:46:03 PM
"Still do not know whether (for instance) an 8 beat track can be followed by a different length one without programming......"

Yes.
Very possible.
I do it all the time.

*discliamer: i use the RC300 not the 505, but from what I have seen and read that functionality is identical.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 22, 2019, 11:36:16 PM
No, you can just go rouge and every track does what you want. No synch, just play whatever.

So, to be clear......

Track 1, stomp record... play whatever.... stomp to loop... record more, whatever...next..this track is doing its own thing. Ring is showing you the loop cycle....

Track 3 , stomp .... play whatever... same thing... you wanna go 10 minutes... your good....

Track 5,  tap,  this one is reverse play .... woo hoo

Track 2  start drum track whatever.... start / stop, your choice

Track 4  15/16 time  , with dotted 8th delay and Slow gear on the control pedal...

So this goes on for however long.....

Stop , Start, Replace ... each track... whatever, fly like an eagle, to the sea, let your spirit carry me, too be free... Steve Miller Famously said... Time keeps on slippin, slippin, slippin into the future, Tick, Tock ,Tick, Doo , Doo , Doo , Doo ....

Steve was 12 when he started his first band, the "Marksmen" in 1955 
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 22, 2019, 11:47:22 PM
philjynx....  Love ya man...

"With Mobius, when (in my case) 8 stereo tracks of varying lengths are playing simultaneously, each of their pacman indicators shows its position, they're all in sync and stay in sync. So it really is starting to look like what I'm used to doing (without a thought, or any pre-planning cannot be done by the RC505. What a shame."

This is no problem , but you only have 5 tracks.

But, anyway, 5tracks of varying length, playing simultaneously, each has their own 'pacman' light indicating position, they are all in sync and stay in sync. Crazy time, but in synch 'crazy time'.

Go Musicians Friend, do 20 days, and return it if you think its bunk. BUT, continue to post and question. You are spot on, the BEST, not only example of why should I purchase, but great board mate, having fun and showing others with interaction , why this place is the hands down BEST!

Edit: the pac man thingy that philjynx is referring to is really cool with the timing ring (you can see it on the BOSS demo with Dub Fx) https://www.boss.info/global/products/rc-505/
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Syph on March 24, 2019, 02:14:30 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8vnDIEmu4TY

Count the bar lengths, hear the sync, no preprogrammed loop length.

*usual disclaimers like this is all done on an RC300, not a 505, etc etc

**edit: looping kicks in about a minute in. Everything is the RC300 except the reverse delay coming from an DD7 between bass and RC.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 24, 2019, 07:09:36 AM

Syph, that was Fantastic ! Beautiful piece of ambient enlightenment, totally captivating, Bravo. Great style and playing too, you could gig anywhere with that skillset. Thanks for sharing  ;D
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: ElliotG on March 24, 2019, 09:47:58 AM
That rocks!  Great job.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: Syph on March 25, 2019, 02:29:08 AM
Thanks, I'm glad you guys enjoyed that, but I really just want to stress that I posted that for tech demo reasons (both here and now, and back then and there).

I can't recommend reading the manual enough, but on the flip side the manuals are woefully lacking. I think a large part of this is a combination of language translation, a lack of clearly defined looper specific terminology in the market place in general, and the limitations of trying to explain the interactions of a very powerful and complex looper with a lot of interacting settings. Look through some of the RC300 threads describing looper behaviour and manual terminology if you want an excellent example of the case in point.

From what you've said, I suspect you would enjoy the 505 if you can deal with the non foot oriented user interface, which is it's big limitation from where I am literally sitting with my hands full of bass. But I also am pretty sure the only way to fin out is to use one, as no one I know has the same workflow, needs, and expectations when it comes to looping.

I have spent years and waaaay too much money building my ideal looping interface, and despite thorough research and a text book understands of various products, none have been quite what I was expecting when I got my hands on them.

There is no substitute for personal hands on experience with any kind of looping gear.

*as you may be able to tell from my more long winded response, I finally on a non-mobile device. yay!
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on March 25, 2019, 11:05:53 AM
Sounds like a plan. That was a good discussion you linked to as well. I just noticed how many views this thread has  (34K+) Hope it helps others out. BOSS/Roland really dropped the ball on marketing, again. It seemed like they just focused on Beatbox and DJ table top initially until update V.2.

Although Dub Fx is awesome as is Tioneb, they have DJ PRO ZIEKO as well, but he is hidden in their BOSS demo page. I posted it below . BUT, they should have promoted it with the FC-300 or done a demo with foot controls, it only takes a simple video, and yet they drop the ball every time. We are talking about a million dollar mistake so far that would have been a half day investment for Alex Hutchings. my $.02.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA0yXMPW3vc
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on August 29, 2019, 05:53:36 AM
New direct source of RC-505 info and ask questions

https://rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&topic=200152439&query=RC-505&commit=Search (https://rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&topic=200152439&query=RC-505&commit=Search)

Roland / Boss Forum
https://rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/200152439-Community-Help (https://rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/200152439-Community-Help)

and

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=64671&p=586335&hilit=
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on September 21, 2019, 05:18:04 PM
https://youtu.be/79XZ_Y-2UoM

https://youtu.be/B80tLqgqycs

Has links to gear employed on his youtube video
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on September 25, 2019, 02:39:32 PM
https://youtu.be/RGBBjRntE_A
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on September 26, 2019, 11:28:23 AM
https://youtu.be/aLlx2rUP8mk
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: admin on September 26, 2019, 06:52:24 PM
https://youtu.be/-L3gdoQyRN8
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: MikeHarveyMusic on May 07, 2020, 12:30:16 PM
Just ordered RC-505.
I'm interested in doing 2 things with it and looking to hear others' experiences in that...

I have the FC-300 foot controller and want to set it up as an effective floor controller for the RC-505.

I also would like to sync MIDI beat clock with the TR-8S drum machine- either direction, whichever is better, but also avoid having start/stop messages on one machine sending to the other.
Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: plexified on May 07, 2020, 01:37:59 PM

This should be easy to set up. I would download the 2 RC 505 manuals in advance and after a quick read through you will have all you need. You can think about how you want to set the controls up in advance to control all the functions.

The beat box crowd has really pushed the usage of this unit light years beyond any other user group. They have what are called "assignations" that combine multiple controls at one time to do things that are quite remarkable. With 16 midi assigns you can do a lot. Some of which has to be heard to open your mind.

Title: Re: Boss RC-505 Loopstation
Post by: anarchytect on August 21, 2023, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: chrish on October 15, 2015, 11:45:53 AMSo the verdict is that the rc505 will not perform the shawnb frippertronics modification because there are no subouts. Correct?

I know that it's a while since you asked that question but I just tried yesterday for the first time to route the headphones' sound back into the loop station (you can use the two instrument inputs or the aux in), change the recording from overdub to replace and omg it sounds like a poor man's frippertronics :) if you use input fx and track fx it gets crazy, especially because when recording a track, you record also all the other tracks (you have no routing options like in rc505 mkII so you record everything that you hear in phones) - you can play with phones mode to monitor

but the nicest trick is that this way you are able to put fx & record internal rhythms and they sound better all of the sudden