FTP- Godin xtSA,A11 questions

Started by Shanti, January 17, 2016, 08:43:57 PM

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Shanti

Hi
1st...has anyone put the FTP OEM pickup in a Godin xtSA? yes I know the outboard unit can work,but I want to remove the Godin 13 pin(not the piezo,as need acoustic sounds) and adapt the Fishman. From what I see,there should be enough space?? The LGXT could also be an idea,but a 10lbs. its a bit too heavy,compared to 8 for the xtSA.

2nd..can the Fishman FTP normal pickup be used on a nylon string guitar? Plan to get the Godin A11 as well,and can't remember if someone makes nylon strings with a metal core.this would be the most far out guitar I think..fretless 11 string with a mix of acoustic & midi. If the FTP is a no go,then the Sonuus I2M may work,with a USB-Midi box,but the FTP has lower latency I think.
Thanks for any help
Variax 300,Roland GI20,Roland XV202,Yamaha VL70m(Patcham) Akai EWI 4000s,Roland GK3,Sonuus I2M,Fisham FTP,Iconnect IMIDI4+,Kontakt 5
Sax & flutes as well--main instr.

Elantric

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Quote1st...has anyone put the FTP OEM pickup in a Godin xtSA? yes I know the outboard unit can work,but I want to remove the Godin 13 pin(not the piezo,as need acoustic sounds) and adapt the Fishman. From what I see,there should be enough space?? The LGXT could also be an idea,but a 10lbs. its a bit too heavy,compared to 8 for the xtSA.

I have  the external FTP below- works well - but had to slightly relocate the xtSA's Bridge Humbucker PU

See FTP Guitars here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8394.0


If you want to go further.
My source for internal FTP OEM kits Ive been buying Fender Fishman Tripleplay Strat Body only on ebay






Quote2nd..can the Fishman FTP normal pickup be used on a nylon string guitar? Plan to get the Godin A11 as well,and can't remember if someone makes nylon strings with a metal core.this would be the most far out guitar I think..fretless 11 string with a mix of acoustic & midi. If the FTP is a no go,then the Sonuus I2M may work,with a USB-Midi box,but the FTP has lower latency I think.
Thanks for any help

the Godin A11 Glissentar has dual course strings - and that can impact guitar to MIDI tracking


But a few folks here use
Thomastik-Infeld KR116 Classical Guitar Strings: Classic N Series steel Rope Core Set W/Nylon Tape Trebles E, B, G, D, A, E Set - which allow Nylon string guitars to use GK-3 or FTP mag divided PU's




http://www.amazon.com/Thomastik-Infeld-KR116-Classical-Guitar-Strings/dp/B00162VU7I

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=16921.msg121321#msg121321
One of the amazing things about the above mentioned Thomastic Infeld KR116 strings is that they have a steel rope core. This means they will work with conventional magnetic pickups, including Roland GK type pickups. I've also fitted these strings to my Glissentar which made a remarkable difference to the playability of the instrument. A Roland GK pickup can then be used on the Glissentar, it works perfectly, even if one of the dual course strings is slightly out of tune.

If you play Fretless Guitar Be sure to read
http://www.unfretted.com/fretless-guitar-neck-fingerboard-strings-and-other-hardware/

whippinpost91850

Good idea what have you been paying for the FTP bodies?

Elantric

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$599 on Ebay

Includes

* FTP OEM Kit with Mag PU

* 24bit USB Class compliant Audio interface ( works great with iPad)

* MIM Strat Body with Seymour Duncan Custom Bridge humbucker, and two Fender Vintage noiseless single coil PUs

its a good platform for mods ( I'm adding ATG Luthier kit, and GK-KIT-GT3 13pin out and add a Warmoth Strat Neck with '59 LP profile, and Hipshot Staggered height locking tuners

whippinpost91850


Shanti

Quote from: Elantric on January 17, 2016, 10:02:39 PM
I have  the external FTP below- works well - but had to slightly relocate the xtSA's Bridge Humbucker PU

See FTP Guitars here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8394.0


My source for internal FTP OEM kits Ive been buying Fender Fishman Tripleplay Strat Body only on ebay






the Godin A11 Glissentar has dual course strings - and that can impact guitar to MIDI tracking


But a few folks here use
Thomastik-Infeld KR116 Classical Guitar Strings: Classic N Series steel Rope Core Set W/Nylon Tape Trebles E, B, G, D, A, E Set - which allow Nylon string guitars to use GK-3 or FTP mag divided PU's




http://www.amazon.com/Thomastik-Infeld-KR116-Classical-Guitar-Strings/dp/B00162VU7I

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=16921.msg121321#msg121321
One of the amazing things about the above mentioned Thomastic Infeld KR116 strings is that they have a steel rope core. This means they will work with conventional magnetic pickups, including Roland GK type pickups. I've also fitted these strings to my Glissentar which made a remarkable difference to the playability of the instrument. A Roland GK pickup can then be used on the Glissentar, it works perfectly, even if one of the dual course strings is slightly out of tune.

If you play Fretless Guitar Be sure to read
http://www.unfretted.com/fretless-guitar-neck-fingerboard-strings-and-other-hardware/


Thanks..it was Thomastic..great strings ..
quite cheap for the FTP + body--my netto is about $300 for the Fishman alone
how to put  a 13 pin with the Fishman?
Variax 300,Roland GI20,Roland XV202,Yamaha VL70m(Patcham) Akai EWI 4000s,Roland GK3,Sonuus I2M,Fisham FTP,Iconnect IMIDI4+,Kontakt 5
Sax & flutes as well--main instr.

Elantric

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Quotehow to put  a 13 pin with the Fishman?

FTP Examples
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?board=213.0

Mod Fishman Tripleplay Strat for GK-KIT-GT3
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=15974.0


DIY Adapter to use FTP with any GK 13pin guitar
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8413.0

Shanti

Variax 300,Roland GI20,Roland XV202,Yamaha VL70m(Patcham) Akai EWI 4000s,Roland GK3,Sonuus I2M,Fisham FTP,Iconnect IMIDI4+,Kontakt 5
Sax & flutes as well--main instr.

Jahloon

The Glissentar, if fitted with the KR116 strings will work with a MIDI controller such as the Roland models.

The dual courses don't seem to be a problem at all with MIDI triggering, even if the two strings are slightly out of tune, the MIDI section seems to just choose one of the pitches and it sticks with that.
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chrish

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I may have misread the op, but i thought there was a reference to adding midi to the 11 string godin A11. Seems like that would be a midi note trigger nightmare. But who knows, maybe just using the steel core string on just one of each string  pair might help.