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Online Elantric

Audacity Audio Editor
« on: March 30, 2017, 02:25:54 PM »
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Audacity 2.1.3 replaces all previous versions.

Audacity has only partial support for Mac Sierra. We found that on a subset of Mac Sierra machines some important extensions to the core of Audacity become unavailable. Full details here: Partial support for Sierra. This problem also affects Audacity 2.1.2. Audacity 2.1.3 takes steps to reduce the problems, but does not fix them entirely. Audacity 2.1.3 is also the last version of Audacity that will officially support Windows XP.

New features, see updated manual for details:

Audacity 2.1.3 now properly supports Windows 10 (thanks to an upgrade of the PortAudio library) and on MacOS has some previously missing support for Magic Mouse/Trackpad (thanks to Paul Licameli).
New Distortion effect, Rhythm Track (was called Click Track) and Sample Data Import (thanks to Steve Daulton). Also effects are no longer grayed-out when in pause.
New scrub ruler and ‘pinned’ option so the waveform moves and the recording/playing head stays still. (Paul)
New features in Timer Record (Mark Young & Steve)
On Mac, audacity.app is now added to /Applications/ directly rather than adding a folder there.
64 bugs/annoyances in 2.1.2 fixed of which 15 were long-standing issues. Also lots done (Paul again) to systematically deal with memory leaks.
Fuller details on the changes since 2.1.2 can be found here.
Thanks to all involved in making this release, especially translators who don’t normally get enough thanks for the work they do.



















« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 02:28:27 PM by Elantric »

Online Elantric

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2017, 02:26:18 PM »


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i use audacity, while not really a daw, it's very easy to use and it's free.
( ASIO Audio interfaces are what all Windows Audio interfaces utilize for lowest latency.
 
If you use Windows OS, if you MUST modify Audacity for use with ASIO Audio Interfaces from Boss, Roland

By default installation, Audacity does NOT provide support for ASIO

How to change that
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/ASIO_Audio_Interface
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Audacity and ASIO

The ASIO technology was developed by German company Steinberg and is protected by a licensing agreement which prevents redistribution of its source code.
Audacity, as an open source program licensed under the GPL, is therefore currently unable to support ASIO, despite being ASIO-capable (providing the user's sound device is similarly capable). If ASIO support were distributed in Audacity builds this would either violate Steinberg's licence agreement if the code were included, or conversely would violate Audacity's GPL Licence if the code were withheld. There are persistent rumours of Steinberg opening up licensing, but without any apparent movement. Anyone who cares about this issue is invited to make their views known to Steinberg via their Contact page.


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Non-distributable ASIO support in Audacity

Audacity provides ASIO support on Windows for individuals who are prepared to compile Audacity from source code using the optional Steinberg ASIO SDK.
ASIO support is provided strictly on the basis that it is NON-DISTRIBUTABLE, that is, you may NOT copy or distribute builds including ASIO support to anyone else. The build is strictly for your own personal (private or commercial) use. For the same reasons, Audacity can NOT distribute builds of Audacity including ASIO support, so please don't ask!
The following is an overview of compiling Audacity from source code including ASIO support.
Install the free Microsoft Visual Studio Community Edition Integrated Development Environment (IDE).
Download and install the ASIO SDK from Steinberg.
Download the source code of the latest Audacity release from https://github.com/audacity/audacity/releases. Follow the steps in win/compile.txt in the source code to:
Download and install the wxWidgets GUI toolkit then build wxWidgets using Visual Studio.
Set the WXWIN environment variable to the directory where you installed Widgets and set the ASIOSDK_DIR environment variable to the directory where you installed the ASIO SDK. Reboot the computer.
Build Audacity using Visual Studio.
Follow the instructions and download links on Developing On Windows for full details.
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Developing_On_Windows

Online Elantric

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2017, 02:29:14 PM »
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Partial_Support_for_Mac_Sierra_in_2.1.3
Partial Support for Mac Sierra in 2.1.3

Warning icon   Audacity 2.1.3 only has partial support for macOS Sierra. This is due to problems with Audacity on that operating system.
Contents [hide]
1 Symptom 1
1.1 Workarounds
2 Symptom 2
2.1 Workarounds
3 For Developers
4 Reporting
Symptom 1

On macOS Sierra 10.12.1 and later (but not 10.12.0) on some users' machines, Audacity can lose access to:
All effects that are not shipped with Audacity
LAME (for MP3 export)
FFmpeg (for import/export of extra formats).
Audacity stops being able to find LAME, FFmpeg and effects that normally extend its capabilities. As a result plug-in effects disappear from menus, or might show an initialisation error. Affected plug-ins will always return to "New" in Plug-in Manager, even if they are re-enabled. Note that FFmpeg is not needed on Mac to import MPEG-4 audio like M4A, but is needed to export to M4A.
The problem is new with the changes that came in with macOS Sierra 10.12.1, and affects Audacity 2.1.2 and previous versions too. We have added code into Audacity 2.1.3 to reduce this problem. We have not solved the problem completely, and you may see the problem on your machine, especially if using COMMAND + W to close a project window without saving changes.
Workarounds
We believe the problem is caused by changes in Gatekeeper for macOS Sierra. If the problem occurs, opening /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and entering the following command will fix the issue:
sudo xattr -r -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Audacity/
If Audacity is elsewhere than in /Applications, change the location in the command accordingly. After typing the above command, hit ENTER on your keyboard. Type your admin password (you won't see it on the screen) then hit ENTER again. You may also need to reboot the Mac.
Unfortunately this command is needed each time the problem happens again.
Symptom 2

On all versions of macOS Sierra, on some users' machines:
On first launch of Audacity, Gatekeeper may take a minute or more to verify Audacity, displaying a progress dialogue. Please let verification complete.
If a given user installs Audacity but another user runs it, then on second run by that other user, a warning may say that Audacity is damaged and can't be opened.
When the user that installed Audacity runs it, Gatekeeper may verify Audacity each time this user runs Audacity, not just first time, and this verification may take a minute or more.
Workarounds
For Developers

This section is mainly for programmers.
Originally Nyquist effects were affected too. We have largely overcome that problem by placing the Nyquist effects with the Audacity app, so that they are part of the signed bundle.
Audacity now implements a fork and crash strategy at start up, where a separate fork is initiated and deliberately crashed. For some reason that we do not understand this seems to stop the problem happening at initialization of Audacity.
Reporting

If you experience the problem and would like to help us with understanding the cause, please contact us at.... One of the obstacles to us progressing with solving the problem is that it only happens on some users' machines.

Online chrish

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2017, 07:37:01 PM »
It was simple to download the program into windows 7, plug in a boss rc- 300 usb connection, set the audio in and out device, set the levels and hit record.

or  record into a boss rc-300, drop the wav file into the pc and then import one or more wav files into audacity. Edit to taste.

I don't remember having to acquire ASIO SKD from Steinberg.

wav files can also be converted to mp3's  by purchasing the correct nch software.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 07:51:23 PM by chrish »

Online Elantric

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 09:57:31 PM »
Must be using the Windows MME audio driver

That works if all you do with is record or playback
But when you start doing multitrack overdubs or using live VSTi instruments plugins ,forget MME.

I can not tolerate the resulting high latency in overdubbing on Windows - since Audacity does not support ASIO (without modification)
« Last Edit: May 23, 2017, 04:36:49 PM by admsustainiac »

Offline PeterPan8

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 10:54:16 AM »
Elantric: I have the FocusRite DI and I am trying to setup Audacity to work with it. I want to record whatever I play on TriplePlay. But I've tried countless setup on Audacity, and nothing works. I can't hear or record anything.

In the Preferences menu, under Devices, I have tried all configuration possible:
Host: MME, Windows DirectSound and WASAPI
Playback: I use Focusrite USB.
Recording: I also use Focusrite with Stereo channels.

All other Preference items are using the Default options.

I'm sure there is something else to setup, but don't know what. Maybe under Transport, in Overdub, Software Playthrough, or something else.

Any ideas?

Offline gumtown

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 04:27:09 PM »
Audacity is my 'go to' software for recording YouTube and streamed audio.
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Offline admsustainiac

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2017, 04:37:28 PM »
Elantric: I have the FocusRite DI and I am trying to setup Audacity to work with it. I want to record whatever I play on TriplePlay. But I've tried countless setup on Audacity, and nothing works. I can't hear or record anything.

In the Preferences menu, under Devices, I have tried all configuration possible:
Host: MME, Windows DirectSound and WASAPI
Playback: I use Focusrite USB.
Recording: I also use Focusrite with Stereo channels.

All other Preference items are using the Default options.

I'm sure there is something else to setup, but don't know what. Maybe under Transport, in Overdub, Software Playthrough, or something else.

Any ideas?

 Audacity does not support ASIO (without modification)

ASIO is Required by most professional Windows Audio interfaces  Focusrite

read how to fix that here:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/ASIO_Audio_Interface
Non-distributable ASIO support in Audacity

Audacity provides ASIO support on Windows for individuals who are prepared to compile Audacity from source code using the optional Steinberg ASIO SDK.
ASIO support is provided strictly on the basis that it is NON-DISTRIBUTABLE, that is, you may NOT copy or distribute builds including ASIO support to anyone else. The build is strictly for your own personal (private or commercial) use. For the same reasons, Audacity can NOT distribute builds of Audacity including ASIO support, so please don't ask!
The following is an overview of compiling Audacity from source code including ASIO support.
Install the free Microsoft Visual Studio Community Edition Integrated Development Environment (IDE).
Download and install the ASIO SDK from Steinberg.
Download the source code of the latest Audacity release from https://github.com/audacity/audacity/releases. Follow the steps in win/compile.txt in the source code to:
Download and install the wxWidgets GUI toolkit then build wxWidgets using Visual Studio.
Set the WXWIN environment variable to the directory where you installed Widgets and set the ASIOSDK_DIR environment variable to the directory where you installed the ASIO SDK. Reboot the computer.
Build Audacity using Visual Studio.
Follow the instructions and download links on Developing On Windows for full details.
If you need help, please ask on the Compiling Audacity board on the Audacity Forum.


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I want to record whatever I play on TriplePlay.
I DO NOT RECOMMEND AUDACITY FOR use as a Host for TRIPLEPLAY

I just use Reaper DAW, or Presonus Studio One ( which is included  free with Tripleplay )
http://www.reaper.fm/download.php

« Last Edit: May 23, 2017, 05:09:58 PM by admsustainiac »

Offline PeterPan8

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 07:53:21 AM »
I'm not looking to use Audacity as my host software. I simply want to record any new compositions I'm finding while playing on TriplePlay.

A couple of weeks ago, I had to re-install all my softwares on my laptop. And 2 months ago, I had install Audacity. I found a thread, somewhere on the Web using Google search, about how to make it work. And since I have re-installed Audacity, I don't remember the settings I did.

I have both ASIO and Focusrite ASIO installed on my computer (as before), but this time I can't find a way to make it work.  Or maybe there is another software that can do the trick... I'm still lookin'


Offline admsustainiac

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 08:23:02 AM »

read how to fix that here:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/ASIO_Audio_Interface
Non-distributable ASIO support in Audacity

Offline PeterPan8

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2017, 02:44:05 PM »
I'm not a programmer, but I checked the link... a bit beyond myself in there!
I don't want to download, install and play with MS Visual Studio, or SDK files.

I simply want to record what I'm playing... I imagine this shouldn't be too hard  :'(

Anyway, I'll find something else... easier to play with! 
Oh, and if I find something, let me know if you are interested in my findings.

Online Elantric

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2017, 03:56:22 PM »
I just use Reaper DAW, or Presonus Studio One ( which is included  free with Tripleplay )
http://www.reaper.fm/download.php

Offline Hurricane

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2017, 08:29:15 PM »
Must be using the Windows MME audio driver

That works if all you do with is record or playback
But when you start doing multitrack overdubs or using live VSTi instruments plugins ,forget MME.

I can not tolerate the resulting high latency in overdubbing on Windows - since Audacity does not support ASIO (without modification)

 8) :
Elaantic :

Does this apply to all software running through Window's MME audio driver ?

EZ :

HR
« Last Edit: May 25, 2017, 01:56:20 PM by Hurricane »

Offline gumtown

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2017, 09:31:28 PM »
8) :
Elaantic :

Does this apply to all software running through Window's MME audio driver ?

EZ :

HR

Yes,
MME driver is like,
if you imagine, boxes of tomatoes being dispatched,
they get stacked in the loading bay,
and someone asks the truck driver to deliver them,
but only when he has some spare time.

ASIO is like boxes of tomatoes delivered on a non-stop conveyor belt.

WDM driver is somewhere in between those.

Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from http://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Offline PeterPan8

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2017, 03:55:57 PM »
I just use Reaper DAW, or Presonus Studio One ( which is included  free with Tripleplay )
http://www.reaper.fm/download.php

I'm still not too familiar with those two, but I finally got my way, and found how to use Audacity to record my guitar play.  In fact, it was quite easy, but you have to know your way about.  Nothing special to do, no programming language to play with, nothing to install (besides Audacity, of course!)

The trick is to choose the option to "loopback" located here:

Edit\Preferences
---Devices
------Recording, that's where you input "Focusrite USB... (loopback).

My host is Windows WASAPI (I didn't try the other ones).

Under "Recording", I checked the box "Sound Activated Recording" (experiment with the threshold activation level.) So when I'm not playing, nothing gets recorded.

So simple!... yet, I had to make sure my little hamster (the one running my brain) was turning its wheel at fast-speed!

PS: I'm posting this info, as I'm quite certain there are many visitors to this forum who are looking for the same info, and since nobody knew how to do it, then it's my pleasure to share my findings  ;D

Online Elantric

Re: Audacity Audio Editor
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2017, 04:02:19 PM »
With Audacity on Windows without ASIO  - forget overdubbing or keeping sync 

( no problem on Mac, or Linux)

But for Windows - how to enable ASIO here
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/ASIO_Audio_Interface

https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=90961
« Last Edit: June 08, 2017, 05:21:22 PM by Elantric »