iPhone 6 or 4s or 5s or samsung galaxy note 4

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myksara

I love and prefer the samsung note series over iPhone for casual use as a smart phone(calling,texts,internet,maps etc).
I am looking for an upgrade to my note2 and find note4 the best successor,however iPhone 6 is also something that I am considering due to its potential to be used as a multifx using jamup pro with irig blueboard and apogee jam.
But I would like to know if I can get good performance using iPhone 4S if I get a used one.
Would 8gb iPhone 4s suffice if I were to use it as a regular phone with jamup and no heavy space consuming video downloads and storage on it?
Or would the iPhone 5s be a better choice? Or is the iPhone 6 a massive improvement over 5s?

My ideal wish is to buy a note 4 as my main phone and iPhone 4S or 5s as a multifx plus phone OR
Or buy an iphone6 and keep my note2.
Any recommendations?

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utensil

I've gone through all the iterations of the iPhone's and currently am on the 6 plus. I've always been eager to get the note 3 and now the note 4 but the 6 plus being able to run audiobus and jamup while also doing the regular phone stuff makes it a big win right now ( at least till android catches up) I didn't upgrade due to performance as I didnt  have any issues with the performance of the 5s and it was as usable with jamup audiobus as the 6 plus but where it fell short was the battery Most of my jam sessions were interrupted by the phone dying. The 6 plus is a big improvement .

Elantric

#2
I have been comparing Iphone 6 Plus to Samsung Galaxy Note 4.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ianmorris/2014/10/15/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review-far-more-to-offer-than-apples-iphone-6-plus/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/10/28/galaxy-note-4-vs-iphone-6-plus/

I was an iphone user 2009-2012,

But due to reduced vision, I jumped over to Android with the Samsung Galaxy Note II's 5.5" large easy to read display back in 2012

I was going to order an Iphone 6 Plus - but in the past few days Ive been able to head to local AT&T store and do my own hands on comparison of new iphone with the new Note 4

Frankly I'm very underwhelmed with the Iphone 6 Plus, perhaps its due to IOS 8 changes - - my typical swipe operating procedure of running my iPads on IOS 7.2 do not  translate on the iPhone 6 plus, IOS 8 seems alien to me ( I cant swipe down on the screen and type the name of the app I want to run like I can on IOS 7  - while the Note 4  just feels right, and for my phone needs does more of what I need from a phone. I' typically carry an ipad with me everywhere I go, and most IOS music apps I use are ipad only. While I use the Video Camera on my phone a whole lot, and the Stereo Mics on the Note4 during Video Recording, replaceable Micro SD card and Battery make a big difference to me as well ( I'm shocked that iPhone 6 plus still records all videos with mono sound only.)     

Add that there is that new "Jack Audio" low latency support for Note 4 and Amplitube LE and support for USB Interfaces, I may just order the Note 4 , which was not even on my radar until I tried both devices side by side the past few days.

Add the fact I can completely manage 100% of this site and approve new members with any  Android Browser, yet for some reason I can NOT do these same tasks with any IOS Browser since IOS 5, and add that I can purchase the Note4 for roughly 50% less than the cost of an Iphone 6 Plus makes me ponder what will I be missing by sticking with Android.

Ive grown very used to the 2 extra navigation buttons on the lower front on Galaxy Note models, and XSCope Pro Browser provides a Full Screen web browsing experience and VPN use I have more detailed screen with the Note4's higher res / brighter display too.

The iPhone 6 plus feels like 2012 tech to me, didnt really enjoy it as much as I had thought I would  - while the Note 4 fits my needs better.         

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote4/galaxy_gifts.html



http://www.ikmultimedia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9129&sid=9b5e20a7c75e58a7c27e26ccb427e191

Amplitube LE included on Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Postby fatstoge » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:49 pm

So I just got the new Galaxy Note 4 last night and one of the included "Samsung Gifts" was Amplitube LE with $40 or so worth of upgrades. Obviously I downloaded it right away. When opening the app a notification comes up for "Professional audio system" settings for the Samsung, which includes low latency. Also, when opening the app there is a splash page picture for a new iRig HD-A, an iRig HD for the Android?! It's probably a Note 4 exclusive but where can I get this iRig??? This is the one feature iOS had that I desperately wanted and now its soooo close! Does anyone have any info on this or where and when we can buy the new iRig? Thanks!

Add that Leo LaPorte also uses a Note 4
http://www.techguylabs.com/

http://techguylabs.com/tags/samsung-galaxy-note-4


Although I might just wait a few months and see what happens when the dust settles after Google releases Android 5.0 Lollipop

http://www.ibtimes.com/android-50-lollipop-update-likely-be-released-samsung-galaxy-note-4-soon-1713054


http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-tips-and-tricks


Rhcole


myksara

Thanks for the detailed view Steve.
I get your point and I did purchase the note 4 couple of days back considering
a better value for money over the hyped iphones.

I continue to use ipad air with ios 7.x for my music apps.
i am considering a spare 16gb ipad mini now with the huge amount I saved buying a note 4 than iphone6 plus
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MultiFX: Roland GR55, Zoom 1on, BOSS GT00
Loopers: Digitech trio+, Line 6 JM4
MIDI:, MAudio Axiom24 keyboard, Alesis IO Dock with iPad air 2

utensil

Quote from: myksara on October 29, 2014, 01:12:30 AM
Thanks for the detailed view Steve.
I get your point and I did purchase the note 4 couple of days back considering
a better value for money over the hyped iphones.

I continue to use ipad air with ios 7.x for my music apps.
i am considering a spare 16gb ipad mini now with the huge amount I saved buying a note 4 than iphone6 plus

myksara: any chance you have an irig HD or pro you can plug into the note using the standard usb connector and a usb on the go adapter. Amplitube should be free in the galaxy gifts section and I am really interested to know if the current Irigs work. I suspect they will as samsungs professional audio SDK should support any class compliant usb device with low latency.

Once sound camp (i.e samsungs garageband) is available with lollipop and factoring amplitude, I think it's enough for me to ditch iOS even though I just got a new iPhone 6 plus.

myksara

I have the apogee jam. I am yet to venture into this android music app world.
fingers crossed. I shall surely post some updates once I have noteworthy findings.
but I may take time as all my music hours are being spent into looking after my 2 months daughter when the mother is busy.
Guitars: Ibanez Prestige S5470, Ibanez Jem 7v, Ibanez JS2410, PRS SE Custom24, Cort  Ltd G16, Ibanez RG370Ahmz,
MultiFX: Roland GR55, Zoom 1on, BOSS GT00
Loopers: Digitech trio+, Line 6 JM4
MIDI:, MAudio Axiom24 keyboard, Alesis IO Dock with iPad air 2

Elantric

#7
A new wrinkle which keeps me interested in iPhone is the AT&T messing up the Note 4 ROM, restricting use of third party ROM's  -and the fact ( based on past experience) it could take over a year for AT&T to apply their Bloatware and then distribute any future Android Updates - the pending Android 5.0 Lollipop update may not happen until Summer 2015.

So basically as an AT&T customer who seeks to preserve and remain on my unlimited Mobile data plan I have had since 2009 ( I often use 6.9GB  / Month) , its AT&T who holds my device hostage because only AT&T Galaxy Note 4's have a  locked Bootloader, and its impossible for me to obtain Android Lollipop Update by any other source, and based on prior experience  - that could take a year 

Seems most are buying a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 ( which does not contain the AT&T Locked Bootloader) at full price, then using their AT&T SIM card  as a work around, and the T-Mobile Note 4 have a working Wireless Hotspot function - which AT&T has Locked out on All their phones devices until the customer pays extra  - all translates to buying an unlocked  Note 4 at Full Price( $800)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/impressed-lag-t2913186

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/help/using-t-mobile-version-att-t2905139

Similar condition applies to iPhone 6 Plus from AT&T  - to a lesser degree, but it still comes with the AT&T Bloatware, and remains lockd to AT&T Many folks buy Tmobile Hardware but use the AT&T SIM Card and data plan   

http://store.apple.com/us/questions/iphone#
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/09/27/unlocked-iphone-6/16232267/
http://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/2c05ir/received_an_email_from_att_accusing_me_of_using/

Elantric

QuoteI have the apogee jam. I am yet to venture into this android music app world.
fingers crossed. I shall surely post some updates once I have noteworthy findings.

Be sure you use the official Samsung USB OTG Adapter Model # ET-R205UBEGSTA
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-R205UBEGSTA



More details on Android USB Audio is here:

good reference of USB Audio Class Compliant Interfaces for Android

http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/



mbenigni

Quotehttp://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/2c05ir/received_an_email_from_att_accusing_me_of_using/

This sucks.  When I got my 6, the AT&T rep. told me I could tether without additional fees.  This was true when I had my (otherwise awful) Win8 phone, but I had a feeling this guy wasn't telling me something.

Anyway, I'm no longer under contract w/ AT&T - instead I'm on their Next plan, where I pay for the phone in full and they discount $25 per phone per month as incentive for me to stick around.  My understanding is that if they break my b***s enough I'm free to pay my balance on the phone, and take it and my business elsewhere.

Elantric

QuoteWhen I got my 6, the AT&T rep. told me I could tether without additional fees.

AT&T Legal verbage is ambiguous
http://www.att.com/att/planner/#fbid=ErlAw1eZibN

Unlimited Talk & Text: Service may be terminated or restricted for tethered messaging or misuse.

While AT&T Mobile Share plan has different rules:

QuoteMobile Share Value Pricing:

Thethering and mobile hotspot use is allowed for up to 5 simultaneous devices.


All I know is that the Mobile Hotspot function on my AT&T Phone shows a screen similar to this:

Rhcole

Perhaps wandering a bit off topic here, but I had AT&T and dumped them for these kinds of reasons; had Sprint, and got rid of them because their service collapsed when they were upgrading their towers and I could no longer reliably make calls; got Verizon, and have stuck with them. I'm sure they mess with the guts of their products too, but I haven't been stopped from doing anything I wanted thus far. They seem OK as long as you pay your bill on time!

Elantric

#12
Quotegot Verizon, and have stuck with them. I'm sure they mess with the guts of their products too, but I haven't been stopped from doing anything I wanted thus far. They seem OK as long as you pay your bill on time!

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/29/samsung-galaxy-note-4-developer-edition-now-available-from-verizon/

The developer edition of the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is now available from Verizon, a week after it was listed on Samsung's website. As with all developer edition devices, the Galaxy Note 4 Developer Edition can only be purchased outright, at a high price of $699.99. For those unaware, a developer edition device is the same as the standard variant, but is open for modding and tinkering thanks to bootloader that can be unlocked with a simple command (Samsung devices never have locked bootloaders, but that's not a policy followed by Verizon, the biggest carrier in the US.)

The hardware on the Galaxy Note 4 Developer Edition, as mentioned above, is exactly the same as the standard Galaxy Note 4. The phone has a 5.7-inch Super AMOLED Quad HD display, a Snapdragon 805 quad-core processor clocked at 2.7GHz, 3GB of RAM, a 16-megapixel camera with optical image stabilization, 32GB of internal storage, a microSD slot, a 3,200 mAh battery, fingerprint and heart rate sensors, and a 3.7-megapixel front-facing camera. The Note 4 runs on Android 4.4.4 KitKat, and is the best Galaxy Note device made by Samsung, something we said in our review.


http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/21/samsung-galaxy-note-4-sm-n910f-review/

Elantric


Rhcole

Elantric,

What would a non-programmer guy like me be able to do with the Note 4 Developer's version for the extra 4 bills in cost compared to buying a regular model from Verizon?


Elantric

#15
QuoteWhat would a non-programmer guy like me be able to do with the Note 4 Developer's version for the extra 4 bills in cost compared to buying a regular model from Verizon?

probably nothing - its more geared towards heavy duty Android Development as a test device for a specific task

If you never visit http://forum.xda-developers.com -

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/development/section-dev-editon-t2920272

or
https://developer.android.com/index.html


then you dont need it


Elantric

#16
After work I revisited my local AT&T store and got to play with both the iPhone 6 Plus and Samsung Galaxy Note 4 again.

And i was armed with the User manuals for each device and headphones to test each device.

Now I'm back into looking at the  iPhone 6 Plus 128GB as my next phone. I had a much better experience with the iPhone 6 Plus tonight, and discovered IOS 8.1 Safari Browser does allow me to fully log in here as Administrator for SMF Forums here  - i even checked a few new members with my SPAMMER test and was able to approve them and send approval emails   - without crashing Safari  - ( something I still can not do with my iPad Air running IOS 7.2.1)

The iPhone just seems tighter integrated, higher quality apps and compared to the "too much flexibility of the Galaxy Note 4  - the "less is more" aspect of the iPhone and the fact i can use Facetime and iMessage with bulk of my musician friends who never leave the Apple ecosystem, and I can have a platform for running Amazon Prime Instant Videos ( which does not run on Android without leaving the device wide open for outside hackers  - and the fact that I dont really want  Google Hangouts to be reporting to anybody who wants to know where I am and what I'm doing 24/7 ( I have ex-wives;)   - and I have 5 years worth of IOS apps dying to run on my main phone again - as my last iphone was a 32GB iPhone 4.


If anyone reading this own a Boss GP-10 and a Galaxy Note 4  - be sure to get the Samsung USB OTG Adapter and for grins try connecting the Boss GP-10 - we do have reports that Android 4.4.4. (KitKat)  - which comes installed on the Galaxy Note 4 100% supports MIDI I/O on the Boss GP-10  - it would be cool to find out if this is true.
    https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=11854.0

gumtown

Aah !!  the conundrum of making difficult decisions,
I am too burdened with such a fork in the road,
Deciding on a games console for my daughter,
"PlayStation-4" or "X-Box-One" , she's not fussed for one or the other,
so long as it has the "MineCraft" game to play.
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Elantric

#18
QuoteI am too burdened with such a fork in the road,
Deciding on a games console for my daughter,
"PlayStation-4" or "X-Box-One"



back to iPhone 6 Plus vs Samsung Galaxy Note 4










musicman65

One click root the Note, install a firewall, use native tethering, turn off the features you don't like. Enjoy. I like having full control of MY device.

ALL mobile providers attempt to track and farm data regardless of platform. Root or Jailbreak and take back your privacy.

Elantric

#20
Quote

One click root the Note, install a firewall, use native tethering, turn off the features you don't like. Enjoy. I like having full control of MY device.
That is possible on unlocked international Samsungs, or T-Mobile Note 4 but  AT&T phones Lock the Boot Loader and place major barrier for a typical user to unlock the phone.
I need to stay with AT&T because an 8GB /month data plan ( which is minimum I need) will cost me a lot more per month elsewhere than I currently pay, and where I reside AT&T has the best coverage
There is a thread here on xda-developers forum where AT&T Galaxy Note 4 Owners are seeking an Android Guru to unlock the "locked down" AT&T Galaxy Note 4 Boot Loader to allow Root

Around $2,300 raised so far
Details here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/bounty-att-note-4-root-t2912243

Also worth reading  - the pending Android L (5.0) Lollipop OS will lock down most devices and end the "wild west" of past Android Root  and third party ROMs 

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/

Android L is for Lockdown
Posted October 21, 2014 at 01:00 pm by egzthunder1
lockdown
Root is, without a doubt, the (un)holy grail of the Android world. Those wonderful permissions that allow you as the user to pretty much do as you please with your device are certainly a major delight, and really one of the top reasons why Android devices have gained as much popularity as they have–not just among end users but among developers as well. There is yet another aspect of the OS that keeps people coming back for more, and that is the fresh, constant stream of updates and new OS versions. However, these two can hardly coexist with one another. Normally, whenever a new update for ... well... anything comes out, it does so with features, bug fixes, and plugged holes. The latter are the ones that are normally required to obtain things such as root level access on our devices. This means that if you update, for the most part, you can kiss root goodbye. Granted, there are apps that will help root survive even an OTA upgrade but still companies making these OS and devices always are on the look out to ensure that the holes and exploits are plugged.

The latest and greatest installment of our beloved Android OS is Lollipop (Android 5), which is something that has been on pretty much everyone's mouth in the tech world for the last week or so as it became available in the latest and most functional Developer Preview. The latest Lollipop installment is build version LPX13D, and aside from being one step closer to the final release, this one also brings the kiss of death for root, which pretty much is the case with all updates as we mentioned earlier. No biggie, right? We simply root again and be done with it, right? Or we simply use a root survival app and we keep going, right?? Nah, not exactly. There are several changes in device security, prompted in part by people and companies seeking the security and sanctuary of their precious data and nude pics. So, with that in mind, Google came to the rescue.

XDA Senior Recognized Developer and Senior Moderator Chainfire has been warning us of all the upcoming changes in the Android world for quite some time now, especially since the newer Jelly Bean and KitKat updates hit the shelves. Well, so far, we can officially say that he has been dead on target on everything he has said regarding the increased security on new versions of Android. The newest Lollipop update, LPX13D, seems to break root, like most updates do. However, it seems to do more than just break it because with the correct combination of factors, a device can become unrootable. Chainfire goes on to explain that the reason why root gets "broken" is mainly because the script required to grant root is no longer allowed to run at boot time from init.d, but rather it is forced to run from a SELinux dedicated context instead. This, apparently, is a new requirement for all apps and services running at boot.

The solution that Chainfire provides is to enable root at kernel level. In other words, you need a custom kernel in order to obtain root. However, many times, you need root in order to flash a custom kernel. Fine, some of you might say that by flashing via custom recovery, that the kernel can be flashed with ease. What if the bootloader is locked? Better yet, what if the bootloader cannot be unlocked? Yup, you got yourself a stock device forever (or until someone gets past the security measures). Essentially, Google is giving manufacturers a golden opportunity to put root access to rest for good. They will not do it to their devices, as the Nexus line has an unlockable bootloader, but no one can guarantee the case will be the same for other manufacturers.

The question then becomes, would the OEMs be willing to close off the devices for good, particularly considering that a large chunk of the sales come from word of mouth? Once Lollipop starts rolling out in its final form, it will be mighty interesting to see which OEMs go in what direction. One thing is for sure, these are trying times for people who enjoy their devices because of the freedom they have with root level access. Once you face the crossroad, which direction will you take?

If you are interested in the full explanation by Chainfire, you can head on to his Google+ page and read his entire take on this issue.


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https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/VxjfYJnZAXP
QuoteOn LPX13D, SELinux, and root

As promised, here are some more details about the current situation.

Why it breaks

Google has really put some effort into better securing Android, and we've seen a lot of SELinux related commits to the AOSP tree over the past months. There is some disconnect between the AOSP tree and actual L preview builds, some things from AOSP are not in the L preview build, and vice versa. Ultimately, it's a pretty good bet these things will mostly align, though.

On most devices and firmwares, SuperSU's daemon is started by the install-recovery.sh service script that runs at system boot time, as user root with the init context. This is what the daemon needs to function.

Recently, they've started requiring all started services to run in their own SELinux context, instead of init. Developers and security guys following AOSP have known this was coming; AOSP builds have been logging complaints about this specific service not having its own context for a while now.

Now this script runs as root, but as the install_recovery context, which breaks SuperSU's operation, as it is a very restrictive context.

In the last AOSP build I have tried (a few weeks old), there were a fair number of other holes that we could use to launch the daemon. At first glance(!), it seems those have all been closed. An impressive feat by the guys working on this, if it proves true.

How to fix it

To fix root, all that really had to be done was ensure the daemon's startup script is run at boot as the root user with the init context.

There are multiple ways to do this, but unfortunately for now it seems that it does require a modified kernel package (changing the ramdisk).

In the modified kernel packages I've posted for the Nexus 5 and Nexus 7, the daemon's startup is fixed by commenting out the line in init.rc that forces the install-recovery.sh script to run as the install_recovery context, so now it runs as init again, and all is well.

Repercussions

As stated above, it seems for now that modifications to the kernel package are required to have root, we cannot attain it with only modifications to the system partition.

Combine that with a locked bootloader (and optionally dm-verity) and a device becomes nigh unrootable - exactly as intended by the security guys.

Exploit-based roots are already harder to do thanks to SELinux, and now because of the kernel requirements for persistent root, these exploits will need to be run at every boot. Exploits that make the system unstable (as many do) are thus out as well.

Of course, this is all dependent on OEMs implementing everything exactly right. If a certain OEM doesn't protect one of their services correctly, then we can leverage that to launch the daemon without kernel modifications. While I'm fairly certain this will be the case for a bunch of devices and firmwares, especially the earlier L firmwares, this is not something you should expect or base decisions on. It is now thus more important than ever to buy unlocked devices if you want root.

It might also mean that every firmware update will require re-rooting, and OTA survival mode will be broken. For many (but far from all) devices we can probably automate patching the kernel package right in the SuperSU installer ZIP. We can try to keep it relatively easy, but updating stock firmwares while maintaining root is probably not going to work as easy and fast as it did until now.

Apps need updates

Unsurprisingly, with a new major Android release, apps will need updates. None more so than apps that go beyond the Android API, as root apps do, but even some non-root apps will be affected by the security changes.

As one example, someone posted in the SuperSU thread of a kernel flashing app that didn't work. From the logcat you could see that it was looking for partitions in /dev/block from its normal non-root user and non-init context. That used to be possible, but now it is restricted: normal apps no longer have read access there.

The solution for that app is actually quite simple: list the /dev/block contents using root instead. But simple solution or not, the app will still need to be updated.

By far most root apps should be updateable for L without too much issue. There are indeed exceptions that will need some special care, but those are rare.

Permissive vs enforcing

The kernel packages I posted for the Nexus 5 and 7 LPX13D  firmware keep SELinux mostly set to enforcing. I say mostly, because SuperSU actually switches a small part of the system to permissive, so apps calling su can do most things without much interference. The details on this are lengthy (yes, your apps will be able to modify policies as well if needed, which should be rare), and I will document these for other developers after L retail release, assuming it will all still work at that time.

Alternatively, you can set the whole system to permissive or otherwise disable SELinux. There are other kernel packages released that indeed do this. The advantage here is that it instantly fixes some apps' issues, as the SELinux based restrictions have all gone the way of the dodo. The disadvantage here is that you've just shut down a major part of the security system of the device.

Some would argue that a device with an unlocked bootloader, root, encrypted modem firmwares of which nobody really knows what they're doing, etc, is inherently insecure, and thus disabling SELinux doesn't make much difference.

I personally disagree with this. While I do agree that these things weaken security down from the ideal level, I would still not disable more security features than I absolutely need to. Just because you cannot eliminate all attack vectors, is no reason to just completely give up on defending against them.

It is of course your own choice if you want to run a permissive system or not. I will strive to keep everything working in enforcing mode though, and I hope other root app developers will do the same - as stated earlier in the post, I believe this is still possible.

(everything in this post is subject to change for retail L release, obviously)?

mbenigni

QuoteThe iPhone just seems tighter integrated, higher quality apps and compared to the "too much flexibility of the Galaxy Note 4  - the "less is more" aspect of the iPhone ... and I have 5 years worth of IOS apps dying to run on my main phone again - as my last iphone was a 32GB iPhone 4.

For a minute there I really thought you were going to go with the Samsung.  But your conclusions here are what led me back to an iPhone 6.  Of course, I really lost the plot going with WinPhone, but the concerns are similar: despite everything I hate about the iOS/iTunes walled-garden paradigm, the product is more mature, the apps are available, and in general they work better.  Android is poised to do some great things this year, but iOS is already doing them.  And as a software professional I should know better than to pin my hopes on someone else's release dates.  :)

gumtown, if your daughter's not especially excited for a game that's exclusive to one platform or the other, PS4 is probably the better value in terms of performance per dollar - as evidenced by multi-platform titles consistently running better on the PS4 than on the Xbox One (for the sorts of geeks who care about things like frame rate, screen tearing, native resolution, blah blah, blah...)  On the other hand, I think MS just bought Minecraft, so even though it will run on either, MS may eventually try to add product differentiation (e.g. game expansions) to favor loyal XBone owners.

Elantric

#22
QuoteFor a minute there I really thought you were going to go with the Samsung.

I'll make my final decision on what phone I use for next 2 years when I place my order  on Nov 14 - which means I should hold  out 2 more weeks for Black Friday sale at AT&T

If anyone reading this own a Boss GP-10 and a Galaxy Note 4  - be sure to get the Samsung USB OTG Adapter and for grins try connecting the Boss GP-10 - we do have reports that Android 4.4.4. (KitKat)  - which comes installed on the Galaxy Note 4 100% supports MIDI I/O on the Boss GP-10  - it would be cool to find out if this is true.
    https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=11854.0

Rhcole

My wife is an iOS fan and has an iPad and iPhone. They are really nice.
But, I HATE being prevented from doing things I want to do or even worse, being arbitrarily charged for "services" that I don't want and could accomplish on my own without oversight.

Android. I don't have the tech chops to really dig into the devices but even at my moderately sophisticated user level I have more freedom.
Plus the pen on the Note 4 is very cool.

Elantric

#24
I tried to order an upgrade to iPhone 6 Plus today via AT&T - but they have really terrible  / confusion  - its impossible to retain my current unlimited data  /message /  900 minutes voiceplan (@ $109.month)  I  talk to 4 different AT&T employees and I get 12 different answers and all roads lead to $140/month

My mobile data use seems to peak at 6.7GB every June ( - as i tend to travel in summer) , then lowers down to 3GB most months 

I'm tempted to just get a cheap $30 "Go Phone" and carry my  iPad Air with 4G with me, and  purchase a month of mobile data for the Ipad only when  I need it for a trip and I'm away from Wi-Fi   
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/02/best-prepaid-data-carriers-and-plans.html