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Title: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: vanceg on May 02, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
http://www.cycfi.com/2017/05/nu-update-roland-13-pin-adaptor/

Cycfi has announced a 13 pin output option for their NU divided pickups.  This allows the NU to be used directly with 13 pin equipped gear. Cycfi has seen fit to support the Normal Guitar input as well as the S1/S2 switch normally associated with the GK series pickups.  So the NU now become a very viable replacement or alternative to the GK-3
I've been using the NU with the VG-99 for a while now and like them significantly more than the GK-3.  Any guitar I would normally consider a GK-3 internal kit for now gets the NU pickups, especially now that there is direct support for 13pin.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: admin on May 02, 2017, 10:53:13 AM
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Dont forget the important GK-Volume on Pin #8 - if there is no connection on pin#8 the connected GK Processor (GR-55, VG-99, GP-10, etc) will assume the GK-VOL is on "0" and never make a sound  .



Still awaiting string to string crosstalk performance data for the Cycfli NU divided pickups - if this is too high , expect anomalies with DSP Alt Tuning and Guitar to PCM, Guitar to MIDI anomalies. 


http://www.cycfi.com/blog/
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: vanceg on May 02, 2017, 05:59:45 PM
I'm finding that the crosstalk off my NU pickups is at least as good if not somewhat better than that on the GK3 equipped guitars I have. 

One of my instruments currently has a single coil pickup right next to the GK-3.  I think what I'll do is pop a set of NU's into this instrument so that I can do some nearly a/b tests to compare the two pickup systems.

I always turn the GK-3 volume sensing off on my VG-99.  I never ever use that knob for volume. 
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: Elantric on May 02, 2017, 06:04:55 PM
QuoteI always turn the GK-3 volume sensing off on my VG-99.  I never ever use that knob for volume.

many other GK Processors do not have that feature
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on May 03, 2017, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: admsustainiac on May 02, 2017, 10:53:13 AM
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Dont forget the important GK-Volume on Pin #8 - if there is no connection on pin#8 the connected GK Processor (GR-55, VG-99, GP-10, etc) will assume the GK-VOL is on "0" and never make a sound.

The Cycfi GK Breakout Board includes circuitry and connection for GK Volume.

QuoteStill awaiting string to string crosstalk performance data for the Cycfli NU divided pickups - if this is too high , expect anomalies with DSP Alt Tuning and Guitar to PCM, Guitar to MIDI anomalies.

Can you elaborate what data you are looking for?  Do you have a specific test setup in mind?  Can you show us the baseline data for a GK-3 pickup?  So far we have user testimonials that the Nu pickups are usable with VG-99 and 6APPEAL systems.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: Elantric on May 03, 2017, 09:05:13 AM
QuoteCan you elaborate what data you are looking for?  Do you have a specific test setup in mind?  Can you show us the baseline data for a GK-3 pickup?  So far we have user testimonials that the Nu pickups are usable with VG-99 and 6APPEAL systems.

Sure, use the String sensitivity screen on your GK processor and strike the "G" string - and see if you see the level meters for adjacent string move too

If they are moving - you have poor adjacent string "crosstalk" signal invading the other string's signal path = terrible Guitar to MIDI tracking, DSP Alt Tuning warbles
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=20783.msg149904#msg149904

GR-55 example:
Pluck the "G" string only -
See upper pic below = high adjacent string crosstalk
Lower pic = excellent adjacent string crosstalk:
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20783.0;attach=15775;image)
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: vanceg on May 03, 2017, 01:23:15 PM
There are none of my GK-3 equipped guitars on which I do not see ANY signal when I strike an adjacent string.   Of the dozens of guitars I've set up with GK-series pickups, not a single one, including the ones even with Piezo pickups, I always see a LITTLE crosstalk.  Always. 

What I've seen with the Cycfi so far is that I can get the pickup further from the string than I can with the GK before that crosstalk becomes an issue.  If I put the Cycfi pickup as close to the string as I do the GK-3 (about 1mm if my tremolo allows for it) then I see significantly less crosstalk on the Cycfi than I do with the GK-3. 

Hopefully before the middle of next month when I head back out on tour, I can set up a test guitar with a GK-3 right next to a set of NU's so we can get some sort of comparison going.

Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on May 03, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
Sounds like an interesting approach; however, I'm concerned that the string sensitivity setting would be a huge variable affecting cross-talk (witness the lower settings in the lower image).  Since we would be comparing the GK hex pickup with the Cycfi Nu, I suggest we agree on some measurement conditions:

1) It would be advisable to agree on a "standard" string sensitivity (or better yet a voltage measurement) for each pickup type to make it an equitable comparison.  The Roland method is not likely to be very repeatable or reliable from player to player (what is playing a string at "normal" strength anyway?)
2) Use repeatable pickup heights (distance from strings) for each type of pickup, as this is another huge factor
3) Express cross-talk as a ratio of adjacent string amplitude to plucked string amplitude.  Decide on what is an acceptable ratio (may have to be determined empirically based on tracking or warbles)
4) Since the Nu pickup setting is likely to be PIEZO, we need to agree to test at a common setting for PIEZO TONE LOW and PIEZO TONE HIGH (perhaps 0 dB)

I'm thinking it might be easier to use a breakout box and 6 tracks on a DAW?

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: vanceg on May 03, 2017, 01:25:12 PM
Note also - the Cycfi 13 pin output module DOES have an input for the GK-volume setting, It just doesn't seem to come with a volume knob for it.  I'm assuming (checking now) that their volume knob that they currently sell for the Nexus system is set up to connect directly to the 13pin adaptor board.  I can't imagine that this is not the case.

Vance
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on May 03, 2017, 01:27:13 PM
Quote from: vanceg on May 03, 2017, 01:25:12 PM
Note also - the Cycfi 13 pin output module DOES have an input for the GK-volume setting, It just doesn't seem to come with a volume knob for it.  I'm assuming (checking now) that their volume knob that they currently sell for the Nexus system is set up to connect directly to the 13pin adaptor board.  I can't imagine that this is not the case.

Vance

Yes, the idea is to use the Cycfi CV Potentiometer with 0-5V out.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: Elantric on May 03, 2017, 05:52:45 PM
QuoteI'm thinking it might be easier to use a breakout box and 6 tracks on a DAW?



https://youtu.be/nhZ2A5pHQIM

i agree

Ideal situation  - use an audio interface with at least 8 inputs , and record 6 tracks of separate string signals on 6 tracks in Reaper
Would be noice to also record a normal mag Pu signal on a separate track too - to
Since Reaper is share ware, we could share reaper multi-track audio files with Dropbox and review / compare our results

But the "hurdle" is everyone plays the strings differently and has different guitars and different divided  / hex pickup height setting, etc - and all those impact the adjacent string crosstalk results too.   
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on May 04, 2017, 06:33:54 AM
I'll go with this approach; my Nu-equipped guitar is still in the early build stage, perhaps one of the others can try the DAW route sooner.

Meanwhile, it was mentioned on the Cycfi Facebook page that the Nu crosstalk had been measured to be 49-53 dB.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: Smash on May 18, 2017, 02:58:41 AM
Interested in this as alternative to GK3 but can't work out a full GK kit price from their website - have emailed and wait reply although from I can see the basic nu series pickup is way more expensive than a GK3 before adding the GK board and anything else required. May be a bit too suited to hacker types for my "bolt on" liking!
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: chlorinemist on May 18, 2017, 04:16:16 AM
Quote from: Smash on May 18, 2017, 02:58:41 AM
Interested in this as alternative to GK3 but can't work out a full GK kit price from their website - have emailed and wait reply although from I can see the basic nu series pickup is way more expensive than a GK3 before adding the GK board and anything else required. May be a bit too suited to hacker types for my "bolt on" liking!

Regarding the "hacking" difficulty level: it's simpler than you'd think. All their stuff is solderless, much easier to assemble than normal guitar electronics. Very quick and simple to install. Depending on the guitar you have you might need to drill a hole, but that's about the extent of skill you need.

Their prices are usually very reasonable. I've bought a lot of their off-catalogue stuff, and judging by their typical prices for this kind of thing I'd say the GK kit will probably go for something in the ballpark of $20-$40. The Nu Multi 6 pickup is $200. So total it's less than $100 more than a new GK-3.

If you use hex for midi control exclusively, a GK handles that just fine and has a nice price.
However, if you use hex for audio processing and polyphonic effects, the Cycfi stuff is a HUGE upgrade. Spending the negligible additional money and effort required for such a substantial sound improvement is a complete no brainer, in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: billbax on May 18, 2017, 05:05:39 AM
QuoteBut the "hurdle" is everyone plays the strings differently and has different guitars and different divided  / hex pickup height setting, etc - and all those impact the adjacent string crosstalk results too.

Even if your playing technique was as deliberate as a robot, it would still be near impossible to better a 30-35dB string separation.  With fingers touching strings and related notes resonating, even the most careful playing technique will all eat into a string separation of 20dB, let alone 35dB.  If you play the note "E" on string "A", bottom "E" will resonate by -5 to 10dB.  A string dampener might help to suppress unwanted notes btw. 

I welcome the impressive Cycfli NU "49-53 dB" string separation figures, as it's a move in the right direction.

Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: Smash on May 18, 2017, 05:59:08 AM
Quote from: chlorinemist on May 18, 2017, 04:16:16 AM
Regarding the "hacking" difficulty level: it's simpler than you'd think. All their stuff is solderless, much easier to assemble than normal guitar electronics. Very quick and simple to install. Depending on the guitar you have you might need to drill a hole, but that's about the extent of skill you need.

Their prices are usually very reasonable. I've bought a lot of their off-catalogue stuff, and judging by their typical prices for this kind of thing I'd say the GK kit will probably go for something in the ballpark of $20-$40. The Nu Multi 6 pickup is $200. So total it's less than $100 more than a new GK-3.

If you use hex for midi control exclusively, a GK handles that just fine and has a nice price.
However, if you use hex for audio processing and polyphonic effects, the Cycfi stuff is a HUGE upgrade. Spending the negligible additional money and effort required for such a substantial sound improvement is a complete no brainer, in my humble opinion.

Mainly using the GK3 for alternate tuning and COSM models with occasional MIDI. Does the increased sound improvement translate in the COSM environment? Has anyone actually run their GK adapted hex into a VG99 or GP10 for COSM comparisons.

My problem - and I accept it's my problem - is I'm in the UK so I'd guess all in it would end up costing me 300 odd quid by the time VAT duty and shipping hit if the base is $200. I was hoping I might be able to get it in around the £200 mark which would make it a viable an interesting alternative,

I'm in the midst of a Rig-life crisis(!) and re-assessing everything I have vs what I actually need
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: Elantric on May 19, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
Too bad all Cycfi NuPlus divided pickups are currently sold out and not available at the moment
https://www.cycfi-research.com/product/nu-multi-basic-set/

(https://s6.postimg.cc/927d6i875/cycfi.png)
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: vanceg on May 20, 2017, 06:34:19 PM
Yes, I have done this comparison with the VG-99.  I wont' be able to get to installing both the Cycfi and GK3 on the same instrument and creating a demo recording for at least the next two months as I will be on tour and not around my workshop at all, but I HOPE to be able to do this at some point. 

I did replace my GK-3 with Cycfi NU pickups and what I found was that the COSM sounds seemed to be a littler "fuller" and "clearer" sounding.  Not surprisingly, the NU pickups seemed to have a wider frequency range.  The COSM sounds just seem a little "bigger".


Quote from: Smash on May 18, 2017, 05:59:08 AM
Mainly using the GK3 for alternate tuning and COSM models with occasional MIDI. Does the increased sound improvement translate in the COSM environment? Has anyone actually run their GK adapted hex into a VG99 or GP10 for COSM comparisons.

My problem - and I accept it's my problem - is I'm in the UK so I'd guess all in it would end up costing me 300 odd quid by the time VAT duty and shipping hit if the base is $200. I was hoping I might be able to get it in around the £200 mark which would make it a viable an interesting alternative,

I'm in the midst of a Rig-life crisis(!) and re-assessing everything I have vs what I actually need
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: Smash on May 26, 2017, 12:54:26 AM
Had an email from Cycfi and the GK13 unit is not available yet so no idea on pricing.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: cags12 on May 26, 2017, 04:34:24 AM
Quote from: Elantric on May 19, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
Too bad all Cycfi NuPlus divided pickups are currently sold out and not available at the moment
https://www.cycfi-research.com/product/nu-multi-basic-set/

(https://s6.postimg.cc/927d6i875/cycfi.png)

I have information that the Nu's will be back in stock by the end of the month so there you go :)
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: chlorinemist on May 30, 2017, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: cags12 on May 26, 2017, 04:34:24 AM
I have information that the Nu's will be back in stock by the end of the month so there you go :)
Quote from: Elantric on May 19, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
Too bad all Cycfi NuPlus divided pickups are currently sold out and not available at the moment
https://www.cycfi-research.com/product/nu-multi-basic-set/

(https://s6.postimg.cc/927d6i875/cycfi.png)

http://www.cycfi.com/2017/05/nus-4u/
Officially back in stock
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: admin on May 30, 2017, 09:48:35 PM
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Was there a time when one could purchase the 13 pin preamp, ?


(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cycfi.com%2Fcycfi-com-live%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2FNexus-1024x731.jpg&hash=9fdd58c515689e3c3e77a8ee086fb17eac6a0326)(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cycfi.com%2Fcycfi-com-live%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F08%2Fnexus-back.jpg&hash=e6724b463e3e2e09c284db4fdcc507e4862cc38f)

http://www.cycfi.com/2015/11/nu-update-meet-the-nexus/

How about the Nexus box ?
I read the blog
http://www.cycfi.com/category/electronics/support-electronics/

and see lots of interesting interfaces
http://www.cycfi.com/category/electronics/support-electronics/
yet none are for sale at the online store
https://www.cycfi-research.com/



I understand bulk of the interesting CyCfi hardware is open source -  - but it means its a bit unobtainium - and must be built by hand ?
https://github.com/cycfi
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cycfi.com%2Fcycfi-com-live%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F12%2Fnexus_a.jpg&hash=ecba4330a6536aad1d99158e35ec28a9441417ae)
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: admin on May 30, 2017, 09:57:23 PM
Quote from: vanceg on May 02, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
http://www.cycfi.com/2017/05/nu-update-roland-13-pin-adaptor/

Cycfi has announced a 13 pin output option for their NU divided pickups.  This allows the NU to be used directly with 13 pin equipped gear. Cycfi has seen fit to support the Normal Guitar input as well as the S1/S2 switch normally associated with the GK series pickups.  So the NU now become a very viable replacement or alternative to the GK-3
I've been using the NU with the VG-99 for a while now and like them significantly more than the GK-3.  Any guitar I would normally consider a GK-3 internal kit for now gets the NU pickups, especially now that there is direct support for 13pin.

Price?

When will it be available?
http://www.cycfi.com/category/electronics/support-electronics/


https://github.com/cycfi
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: chlorinemist on May 30, 2017, 10:19:08 PM
Quote from: admsustainiac on May 30, 2017, 09:48:35 PM
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cycfi.com%2Fcycfi-com-live%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F05%2F13-pin-Nu-Adaptor-1024x732.jpg&hash=7472d6fe1a60fd1ba5128d32408d5fc6aac04928)

Was there a time when one could purchase the 13 pin preamp, ?


(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cycfi.com%2Fcycfi-com-live%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2FNexus-1024x731.jpg&hash=9fdd58c515689e3c3e77a8ee086fb17eac6a0326)

How about the Nexus box?
I read the blog
http://www.cycfi.com/category/electronics/support-electronics/

and see lots of interesting interfaces

yet none are for sale at the online store
https://www.cycfi-research.com/



I understand bulk of the interesting CyCfi hardware is open source -  - but it means its a bit unobtainium - and must be built by hand ?

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cycfi.com%2Fcycfi-com-live%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F12%2Fnexus_a.jpg&hash=ecba4330a6536aad1d99158e35ec28a9441417ae)

The 13 pin preamp has not been released yet. It was just announced last month. in my experience though soldering the Nu internal breakout board to a 13 pin jack works just fine. I didn't notice any need for a preamp for it, although I'm sure it will improve performance. I now use a 13 pin out I installed on my Nexus, which has its own buffered preamp circuits. Sound quality is wonderful. Took me about 20 minutes to complete the DIY install, including drilling through the aluminum faceplate.

Nexus is currently available only through contacting them via email. That's how I got mine. I made sure to reserve one just after it was announced though. I'm not certain if they currently have them in stock but if they don't it's definitely just going to be a matter of waiting a few weeks/months for the next batch to come in, just like the deal with the Nu pickups.

I think they don't list these on the official store because they don't want to end up in a situation where they can't scale up to meet demand. At the moment I think Joel is doing Cycfi purely as a passion project, and is keeping the operation from growing too quickly on purpose so he can focus his time and resources on continuing R+D for his Infinity system. I certainly can't criticize him for this strategy considering the fact that their products are consistently extremely well thought-out designs, with few to no flaws or weaknesses. Construction quality is always top notch.
I predict that once the full Infinity ecosystem is 100% complete and ready to go, by which time I imagine many more people will have an understanding and appreciation for the technology than do at the present moment, Cycfi will finally begin focusing on expanding the company, keeping the store stocked with the full line of products, increasing manufacturing output, creating an actual marketing dept, etc.

I personally just ordered and recieved a bunch of Nexus accessories (19 pin jacks, cv pots, cv switch) last month so it's definitely not "unobtainium", even though none of it is listed. LOTS of stuff on the blog has not been released yet and/or is still in the R+D/prototype phase.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: chlorinemist on May 30, 2017, 10:25:08 PM
Quote from: admsustainiac on May 30, 2017, 09:57:23 PM
Price?

When will it be available?
http://www.cycfi.com/category/electronics/support-electronics/


https://github.com/cycfi

This is just a guess, but based on the pricing of Cycfi's electronics accessories in general (i've bought basically everything they sell at this point) I predict the price will be in the ~$30 range. $50 at the very maximum, and at that price it would stand out as the only unreasonably priced product in the whole catalogue.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on May 31, 2017, 06:14:49 AM
I've been able to get items not yet in the store through a simple email request.  Cycfi has been very attentive  and delivered quickly.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on June 07, 2017, 11:48:44 AM
The Nu pickups are back in stock at the Cycfi Research store!
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin ouptut module for their NU pickups
Post by: admin on June 07, 2017, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: chlorinemist on May 30, 2017, 09:30:14 PM
http://www.cycfi.com/2017/05/nus-4u/
Officially back in stock

ok
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: Rodrigo Schwarz on March 15, 2018, 06:42:00 AM
Has anyone tested the NU pickups with a Roland VG-8 (or EX)?
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: cags12 on March 15, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
I will be testing them as soon as Codesmart gets GK cables back in stock and they are shipped to me. I just got a GP-10 and the NU+13pin adapter.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: vanceg on March 15, 2018, 02:14:19 PM
It works well with the GP-10.  I'm using the Nu pickups with GP-10, VG-99 and the Eventide H9000.  Sound fantastic.  However, I am finding that I like to roll the high end off the NU pickups when using them with the H9000.  With the VG-99 and GP-10, the level from the NU pickups is a little hot - I have to turn string sensitivity down quite a bit relative to a GK-3

I foolishly sold my VG-8 and 88 so I can't say how well it would perform. 
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: Rodrigo Schwarz on March 16, 2018, 03:44:10 AM
Thanks for the info guys. I sent a message to Cycfi and at the moment they do not have the products. I know they've already stated that they will not manufacture the 13-pin output module as a regular product, but I'll buy it when it's available. It is important that it also work with the VG-8EX. By the performance described in this forum, I think so.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on April 08, 2018, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: Rodrigo Schwarz on March 16, 2018, 03:44:10 AM
Thanks for the info guys. I sent a message to Cycfi and at the moment they do not have the products. I know they've already stated that they will not manufacture the 13-pin output module as a regular product, but I'll buy it when it's available. It is important that it also work with the VG-8EX. By the performance described in this forum, I think so.

All Cycfi Research products are open source, so you can download the appropriate files from their Google drive and build it yourself!
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: BladesToyShop on May 13, 2018, 10:40:58 AM
Some folks prefer the plug and play option, if you'll pardon the pun...
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: vanceg on June 04, 2018, 01:47:30 PM
I have a set of the NUs with the 13pin output available if you all are interested.  I was going to put them into a specific insturment and my plans for building for this year changed (and I had a baby) so I'd love for these to be used by SOMEone.  Granted, Cycfi did announce the NEW NU pickups... so these are now the "old version"  which is a funny designation for them since they are still remarkably new and forward looking pickups.
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: Elantric on October 13, 2018, 02:42:02 PM
Need and A2B Module


make divided pickup adapter for guitars using A2B technology

https://youtu.be/_p4uPR8PzPI
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on October 13, 2018, 07:16:26 PM
Sounds promising; still need A/D - D/A circuitry to complete the link, correct?
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: admin on October 13, 2018, 07:25:34 PM
Quote from: GuitarBuilder on October 13, 2018, 07:16:26 PM
Sounds promising; still need A/D - D/A circuitry to complete the link, correct?

Correct
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: matigrob on October 23, 2019, 07:37:14 AM
Quote from: Elantric on October 13, 2018, 02:42:02 PM
Need and A2B Module
make divided pickup adapter for guitars using A2B technology

https://youtu.be/_p4uPR8PzPI

this would be nice if the effect machine had such a Module, otherwise where would be the conversion to 13pin?
and we still would have to choose a new connector. and the chips are not totally cheap. and other audio equipment uses other standards that might be more interesting to connect to?
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: matigrob on October 23, 2019, 07:41:00 AM
any newer experiences with the Nu pickup?
I wonder what the appropriate GK settings are... Piezo?
and: the Nu goes down to very low frequencies, does it also need the filter that the RMC needs?
Title: Re: Cycfi Release 13pin output module for their NU pickups
Post by: GuitarBuilder on October 23, 2019, 01:19:43 PM
Quote from: matigrob on October 23, 2019, 07:41:00 AM
any newer experiences with the Nu pickup?
I wonder what the appropriate GK settings are... Piezo?
and: the Nu goes down to very low frequencies, does it also need the filter that the RMC needs?

I've used the Nu Multi pickups extensively with GR-55, VG-99, and GP-10.  I found the piezo setting to be the easiest to set up when using my original Cycfi Research Nexus breakout box with Synth-Line GK jack wired directly to the six string signals on the Nexus Main Board header.  In other words, the Nu pickups were not amplified nor attenuated.  A better arrangement was my second Cycfi Research Nexus breakout box, where I installed a Roland GK-KIT as well as six attenuator pots on the string signals.  This setup gave a better amplitude match, still using the piezo settings on the synths.  I use CodeSmart's outstanding GKPX-14 GK Parallel Box with built-in subsonic filter to feed the guitar into all synths at once, so yes, I had the filter engaged.  I can't disable it, so I'm not able to tell you how well it works without it.