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Title: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: philharmonique on January 27, 2008, 11:12:14 AM
Hello, I'm french and I have a problem with fc 300 (upate made).
In patch mode, when you change patch, expression pedal value is not save as you let it in the precedent patch, you have to move it a little bit to active it.
Thanks.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: chipstar on February 22, 2008, 03:20:10 AM
I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this in their FC-300? I finally took the advice from the previous forum and loosened the expression pedals on my FC-300 so I could actually use a wah effect. I swear that I turned the allen wrench at least 75 times to get the pedal close to what I needed. It's still not a smooth as my Guitar Rig controller though. What gives? In it's original state the FC-300 simply could not be used effectively. What has your experience been?

later,
Chipstar
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: jon_bondy on February 22, 2008, 04:46:48 AM
My experience was that both pedals on the FC-300 were ready to use right out of the box.  I never even considered adjusting them.  Puzzling.

:)

Jon
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Elantric on February 22, 2008, 07:19:41 AM
Mine is perfect right out of the box too.

But I have heard a few other complain about this.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: baranger1 on February 22, 2008, 08:45:06 AM
Mine were good from the box.

That said I have a VF-500L Boss foot pedal that after 3 months went south.
That thing is built like a TANK and I was surprised to see the internal metal screws get funky.

Bill
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: chipstar on February 22, 2008, 01:48:44 PM
Hmmm. Well I guess that I was the exception. It's odd that they were so tight. I mean absurdly tight as in even standing I could not really move them. Weird. Oh well, problem solved now. Thanks guys.

later,
Chipstar
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: ktat on February 01, 2009, 07:25:10 AM
I often use the Exp switch to turn on the effect that I have the pedal controlling, such as a whammy pedal octave type effect.  When pushing the pedal all the way down to get an octave jump I frequently turn the effect off by pressing too hard.  It is only an issue with that effect, as I have to bury the pedal mid phrase for the exact pitch.

Anyone else experienced this? 
It's more of just an annoyance that anything, and I guess I could turn the effect on and off with a different switch as a workaround.
Just looking for interesting commentary or tips. 

KT
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on February 01, 2009, 07:54:08 AM
I think I had the opposite problem. I felt I had to push too hard. This is adjustable but I guess if you have it set to the hardest then there is not much more you can do. I set mine so it takes less pressure and am learning to use less pressure.

If you were not aware that this is adjustable it is an FC-300 setting.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Nobulusprime on April 12, 2009, 08:07:45 AM
I can't get the FC300 to control exp pedals to control the filter on the d beam or ribbon controller.
I love this effect but I'd like my hands to be free to perform other tasks.
Can anyone give a step by step guide of how to set it up?
Also the pitch and freeze functions would be useful.
Has anyone tried this? please help.
Sean ???
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 12, 2009, 08:47:10 AM
Quote from:  Nobulusprime on April 12, 2009, 08:07:45 AM
I can't get the FC300 to control exp pedals to control the filter on the d beam or ribbon controller.
I love this effect but I'd like my hands to be free to perform other tasks.
Can anyone give a step by step guide of how to set it up?
Also the pitch and freeze functions would be useful.
Has anyone tried this? please help.
Sean ???

Welcome to the group Nobulusprime (Sean)! :)

I don't have time to write a step by step right now, but if you know how to assign controllers on the FC-300, all you have to do is pick the one that is active (Ribbon / T-Arm / CONTROL, D-BEAM / FILTER / CONTROL, etc) on EXP 1 or 2. If you can't get it to work let me know and I will get to a step by step tomorrow. Sorry!  :(
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: mosdev58 on April 22, 2009, 01:55:54 PM
On my FC300 the two pedels only seem to work as volume controls.
I am trying to get a B-Bender effect, but no matter what I seem to try in control assignment in the editor it seems to make no difference.
Some of the functions switch on the on/off light but most do not.
I am tearing my hair out - any ideas anyone?
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 22, 2009, 01:58:43 PM
Don't pull!  ;D

Exactly what do you want to do. Use the bend function in the ALTERNATE TUNING SECTION?
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 22, 2009, 02:06:22 PM
If that is it, go to the CONTROL ASSIGN section, then to FC-300, then EXP 1, (I am assuming you want to bend with #1, if not go to #2), select as the target ALT TUNING / A:BEND / BEND. This will do it if GUITAR A is active. If B is the one active then you need to go to B:BEND, etc.

Let me know if this is helping.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: mosdev58 on April 24, 2009, 10:27:19 AM
I have expression pedal 1 set to ALT TUNING : (A) BEND : BEND

On the VG-99 for patch 386 both the A and the B guitars are active.

The B string is tuned down to A and I was hoping to bend it with the pedal, but all that the pedal does is control the volume. The On/Off light is Off I don't seem to be able to change the guitar selection in this patch. If I select patch 3 for instance, then pressing 1 or 2 in Control switches between guitars, but in this patch it does nothing.

I tried changibg the control assign in patch 3 in the way mentioned to test the effect that way, but it still only works as a volume control.

This is the first time I have tried to use the FC300 so I may be doing something wrong

Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 24, 2009, 12:21:21 PM
Just to make sure your FC-300 and VG-99 are set correctly, would you download this patch and try it out. https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php/topic,694.0.html (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php/topic,694.0.html)
The EXP 1 on the FC-300 will bend notes. If this works you can look at how the assignment is set for bend. If it does not work then you probably have EXP 1 assigned on the VG-99's SYSTEM CONTROL ASSIGN pane and is overriding the setting in the FC-300 CONTROL ASSIGN pane.
Let me know how this works! We will get to the bottom of this issue sooner or later.  ;)
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: mosdev58 on April 25, 2009, 02:10:55 AM
I downloaded the patch and it still didn't worlk. I then reset the controls and it is working fin now.

Thanks a lot for your help
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 25, 2009, 06:10:03 AM
Quote from:  mosdev58 on April 25, 2009, 02:10:55 AM
I downloaded the patch and it still didn't worlk. I then reset the controls and it is working fin now.

Thanks a lot for your help

Great! Let us know if you need anything else.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: doha1696 on April 16, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
Hi, I have a VG 99 and Guitar Rig 4 software from Native Instruments. I use the VG and GR4 together, the VG is amplified by a Bose L1 sound system and GR 4 with a Marshall EL 34 with 2 cabinets (1922). I'd like to use the expression pedals of the FC 300 to have "Wha" effect at the same time on the VG preset and GR4 preset. Is it possible ? In which mode ? In fact, one expression pedal for two effects at the same time.... If somebody has an idea....

Dominik

Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 16, 2010, 03:32:02 PM
Yes it is possible. You will have to do the wah GR4 with CC# so that means you will have to set it up to respond to a CC# then set up the FC-300 to send that CC# with the same one you are using for the VG. This is done in the CONTROL ASSIGN section under the ASSIGN tab 1-16.

That is about it. Give us a shout if you can't get it working.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Jim Williams on April 17, 2010, 02:28:32 AM
Give Amplitube 3 a try for a plugin the sound quality is better and the interface is cooler.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: doha1696 on April 18, 2010, 12:13:26 PM
Thanks, I'll try and I'll tell you...
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: doha1696 on April 18, 2010, 12:19:30 PM
Another question, is it possible to let the FC 300 on Sysex mode to manage the VG 99 and to use the FC 300 midi Out to manage GR4 at the same time ? Or must I put the FC 300 on Standard mode to manage the two effects simultaneously ?

Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 18, 2010, 12:20:44 PM
Quote from:  doha1696 on April 18, 2010, 12:19:30 PM
Another question, is it possible to let the FC 300 on Sysex mode to manage the VG 99 and to use the FC 300 midi Out to manage GR4 at the same time ? Or must I put the FC 300 on Standard mode to manage the two effects simultaneously ?


You can leave it in SYSEX mode. You may want to use the VG MIDI out though. I don't remember?
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: doha1696 on April 20, 2010, 04:12:06 AM
I just want to send two CC at the same time to make the FC 300 control the VG99 wha and the GR4 wha with only one expression pedal (the FC 300 expression pedal 1). It seems that it's impossible to use the FC 300 midi out while I'm in the sysex mode...
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 20, 2010, 08:41:40 AM
Quote from:  doha1696 on April 20, 2010, 04:12:06 AM
I just want to send two CC at the same time to make the FC 300 control the VG99 wha and the GR4 wha with only one expression pedal (the FC 300 expression pedal 1). It seems that it's impossible to use the FC 300 midi out while I'm in the sysex mode...
Yes, i explained how to do it in my first reply. Maybe I was not clear?
Set up EXP 1 on the FC-300 to control Wah in the VG-99 as normal in the FC-300 pane in the CONTROL ASSIGN section. Then set up the CC# that controls your wah in GR4 in the ASSIGN pane of the CONTROL ASSIGN section.
The only thing I am not sure of is how you are sending MIDI to GR4. Are sending through USB or have an input interface for MIDI. If MIDI connect a MIDI cable to the VG-99 MIDI out and then to the MIDI in of your GR4 interface.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: doha1696 on April 24, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
Hi, thanks for all these informations, I made what you told me... It seems to be good in Sysex mode, I've got the expression pedal on the two Wha effects on GR4 and the VG99. The problem is that I can't change patches on the two effects with the FC 300 pedals, don't understand why. I can do this in the standard mode : sounds change together when I press a pedal but then, I can't assign the FC300 expression pedal to the VG99 wha........ very strange because GR4 wha works without any problem......
I resume :
sysex mode = wha assigned on the FC 300 expession pedal works perfectly but changing two presets simultaneously on GR4 and VG99 is impossible
standard mode = it's OK to change programs together using the FC 300 switches but only GR4 wha works with the FC 300 expression pedal...

Sure you'll tell me what's wrong...

Bye and thanks again!
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 24, 2010, 01:48:19 PM
You may want to read this thread if you want to use Standard Mode. https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=1377.0 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=1377.0)
If you are talking about the GR4 not getting a Program Change MIDI event then you may want to see if you have OUTPUT (PC OUT) on.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on April 24, 2010, 01:57:03 PM
I forgot to say, OUTPUT (PC OUT) is in the SYSTEM settings.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: doha1696 on April 25, 2010, 02:00:41 PM
OK, I'll try this but I'm already progressing yet.

Thanks for everything.

Dominik
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: pjwassermann on November 12, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
So this would probably be the same procedure for controlling an additional Axe FX from the FC300 or the VG.

I, too, would like to have the patches change simultaneously, also when I switch them directly on the VG guitar. For this should I use the MIDI out on the VG? Any settings useful to know?

Then also I want to have ExprPedal1 on the FC300 control the Wah (or whatever assigned) on the Axe, too.

Thanks if you can give me some starting points on all three units involved.
PJ Wassermann
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on November 12, 2010, 05:06:15 PM
Quote from:  pjwassermann on November 12, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
So this would probably be the same procedure for controlling an additional Axe FX from the FC300 or the VG.
Yes, very similar!  :)
Quote from:  pjwassermann on November 12, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
I, too, would like to have the patches change simultaneously, also when I switch them directly on the VG guitar. For this should I use the MIDI out on the VG? Any settings useful to know?
Just read up on some of the info linked to in this thread. It will help you understand how MIDI works somewhat.
Quote from:  pjwassermann on November 12, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
Then also I want to have ExprPedal1 on the FC300 control the Wah (or whatever assigned) on the Axe, too.

Thanks if you can give me some starting points on all three units involved.
PJ Wassermann
Let us know if you run into a road block.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: fokof on December 05, 2010, 10:30:13 AM
Also be sure to set your USB out correctly:
System/MIDI/page 3/F2 = RRC2
So your FC300 CC are sent to the CPU
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: guitguy on September 30, 2011, 12:22:59 PM
please please post a step by step as i cannot get it assigning at all.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: fokof on October 01, 2011, 08:17:41 AM
The thing is : you have to assign an On/Off to parameter #1 and the assign on parameter #2

"How to" assign the DBeam filter:

Assign1 = D Beam filter / filter / switch
-D-Beam target min=on / target max=off
-switch mode = moment
-Source active range = low=126>high=127

Assign 2= D Beam Filter / filter / control
-D-Beam target min=100 / target max=0
-switch mode = moment
-Source active range = low=0>high=126


ON the ribbon or DBeam , you always have to assign a "switch" on top of the controller. ( on the VB99 anyways)
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Gassghost on December 10, 2012, 07:33:45 PM
Hi All:
Ok, I've believe I've exhausted most avenues (manuals, this forum and experimenting) and after 4 hours I need some help. I'm a novice and just starting to implement MIDI into my rig. Here's the layout:

GK3>
US-20 > VG-99
         > GR-55

FC-300 RRC2 > VG-99
           MIDI Out > GR-55

This is probably a very simple issue but I just can't seem to figure it out. When running  the FC-300 in SYSEX mode I have EXP1 as pedal VOL for the 55 and EXP2 is Pedal VOL for the 99. I want to use EXP3 as an assignable exp pedal for different functions in each patch on both the 55 and the 99. Right now my focus is on the 55 (I have not experimented with the 99 at this point) When in any mode except SYSEX the EXP3 pedal functions as is should per CC# assignment and  function (i.e. PCM bend) on the 55. As soon as I go into SYSEX mode EXP3 no longer works on the 55. What am I doing wrong or missing?? or is this not possible in SYSEX mode??? I'm stumped.

Thanks
GASS
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Elantric on December 10, 2012, 11:59:28 PM
I suspect your problem is the US-20

I would remove the FC-300 from the  system and check simple basic A/B routing function of the US-20.

The US-20 has very specific requirements before it can be used as an A/B switcher

Details here:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3494.0 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3494.0)

QuoteManipulating the "A/B" or "Both" foot switches on the US-20 simply re-routes the GK-3 S1 & S2 control lines and the GK-3 Volume control voltage to the target 13 pin processor device selected by the US-20:
Unit A or Unit B or Both.

All 6 string signals (as well as the "normal guitar signal") from the GK-3 are always sent to both 13 pin processing units the US20 is feeding. (Unit A & Unit B)

The 20 year old US-20 design relies on the GK-3 Volume control to be assigned to the Master Volume parameter of the connected units (VG-99, GR-55,etc).
When the US-20 "deselects" a connected 13 pin device, it sets the "GK-Vol" control voltage to zero - which essentially "mutes"  the deselected device -therefore: The Roland US-20 A/B box will only work, AS LONG AS you have the GK-3 VOL control set to control Master Volume on the connected device! (VG-99,VB-99,GR-55, etc)!!

The problem is this era of COSM processing, the  GK-3 Vol Control is constantly being re-assigned to many other functions / uses besides Master Volume, (including the factory presets of the recent Roland products) far too many times the US-20 will appear to not be functional and "broken". This is normal.

So if you have reassigned the GK-3 Vol control to another parameter, such as Delay level, or EQ control, the US-20 will not function.

Also note that you MUST connect a 13 pin processor to the US-20's "UNIT A" jack, as this supplies +/-7VDC power to the US-20.

US-20 Schematic is here:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=480.0;attach=432;image (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=480.0;attach=432;image)
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on December 11, 2012, 03:50:41 AM
Another possible fix is to go into CONTROL ASSIGNS and tell the VG99 to output a CC# for EXP#3. I don't think it will do it by default in SYSEX MODE.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Gassghost on December 11, 2012, 08:40:49 AM
Thank you guys!

Brent that was the ticket and I actually stumbled across the solution about 5 minutes after I posted. I read one more somewhat unrelated post and the answer was there. The problem was the 99 was not passing along the CC.  assigned CC#76 to the EXP#3 out and works like a charm!

You guys are great!
Thanks for the help!!!

Gass
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: rer801 on December 24, 2012, 06:27:45 PM
Greetings, and happy holidays.  I'm having some issues with not being able to use the expression/control pedals on the FC-300 with the VG-99 in Patch Mode.  I'm running the FC-300 into the VG-99 via the RRC2 cable.  From the VG-99, I then run a MIDI cable into my Boss GT-Pro.  I have the VG-99 set to MIDI channel 1, Omni mode on, and the GT-Pro set to MIDI channel 2.  I have successfully assigned the FC-300 to switch patches on both the VG-99 and the GT-Pro, so I know that's working correctly.  I have also successfully assigned Expression Pedal 2 on the FC-300 to act as a foot volume control for the GT-Pro using CC#7.  The problem I'm encountering is that no matter what I do, I can't get Expression Pedal 1 on the FC-300 to act as the foot volume for the VG-99.  FWIW, I'm assigning these on a patch-by-patch basis - not globally at this point.  It's like the only thing being recognized by the VG-99 is patch changes.  Does the VG-99 recognize CC#7 as foot volume, as it does on the GT-Pro?  The simplest thing I would like to accomplish right at the moment is to just have Expression Pedal 1 on the FC-300 act as the foot volume for the VG-99.  If I can get that to work on a single patch, I'd be happy to set it on a patch-by-patch basis.  I have tried looking at both the VG-99 and the editor software, but I can't seem to figure out where I'm going wrong.  Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Ron
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on December 24, 2012, 07:12:45 PM
You will have to go into the CONTROL ASSIGN section either on the VG or in the EDITOR and then go to the FC-300 section and set the target of EXP 1 to FOOT VOLUME in the FX section. It is last and make sure you set both A and B if you are using both.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: rer801 on December 26, 2012, 04:07:03 PM
Brent:  thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I still cannot get this to work.  I have the foot volume for Exp. 1 set as you outlined, on both A & B, and it works just fine in Sys Ex mode.  However, it does not work at all when I switch to Patch mode.  Any other thought/suggestions/etc. would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.

Ron
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on December 26, 2012, 04:19:04 PM
Quote from:  rer801 on December 26, 2012, 04:07:03 PM
Brent:  thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I still cannot get this to work.  I have the foot volume for Exp. 1 set as you outlined, on both A & B, and it works just fine in Sys Ex mode.  However, it does not work at all when I switch to Patch mode.  Any other thought/suggestions/etc. would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.

Ron
OK, well I don't remember you mentioning using other modes for the FC-300, maybe I just missed it. Any time you use another mode on the FC then you have to set a target (on the VG) up with a CC# in the ASSIGN (1-16) section of the ASSIGN CONTROL section. This thread does not address your problem sepcifically but does include some information (like what CC# the controllers on the FC send by default) that will be very helpful to get the VG working in other modes. https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=1377.0 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=1377.0)
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on December 26, 2012, 04:30:29 PM
I will be moving this thread to the FC-300 area in case you can't find it.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: rer801 on December 26, 2012, 05:07:30 PM
Brent:  thank you.  I could've sworn I put Patch mode in my initial message, but it appears that I did not.  My apologies for that oversight.

I'll have a look at the info in the link you posted.  Thanks very much.

Ron
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: vanceg on December 27, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
I sold my FC-300 but I seem to recall that in PATCH mode, the FC-300 sends MIDI out the 5pin MIDI ouputs only.  I may be mis-remembering.  But If I am right, then you would need to connect a standard MIDI cable from the FC-300 to the VG-99.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: rer801 on December 29, 2012, 04:23:58 PM
vanceg:  thanks for your message.  Unfortunately, there is no change in this problem when using a MIDI cable into the VG instead of the RRC2.  The problem persists, and I've tried everything I can think of at this point.  I'm now seriously considering dumping the FC-300 in favor of something else, although I don't know what at this point.

Happy New Year.

Ron
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on December 29, 2012, 04:44:10 PM
The VG is not set up to respond to any CC# by default. You have to set them up yourself in the CONTROL ASSIGN section. As an example would be to set up the VG to respond to EXP PEDAL 1 on the FC-300. Since the FC-300 default CC# for EXPRESSION PEDAL 1 is CC#7 you would go into CONTOL ASSIGN/ASSIGN/ then on one of the sixteen assigns select as a SOURCE CC#7 with a target of A:FX/FV/LEVEL on CONTROL ASSIGN 1 and then Target B:FX/FV/LEVEL on 2. This will now set up the Foot Volume to respond to CC#7.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: rer801 on December 29, 2012, 05:14:31 PM
Brent:  thank you (and thanks for your patience).  I think that I have tried what you described, but I will try it again, just to be certain.

Best,

Ron
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on December 29, 2012, 05:20:11 PM
Quote from:  rer801 on December 29, 2012, 05:14:31 PM
Brent:  thank you (and thanks for your patience).  I think that I have tried what you described, but I will try it again, just to be certain.

Best,

Ron
It is just a matter of finding out what you are not setting right. It works for everyone else. Make sure you have the basics set right also. Any device you want to control has to be set to the same MIDI channel, etc.

The VG is not like a keyboard where all the controls are already set and you just send CC# data and they work. Like I said you have to set up any part of the VG you want to control. In SYSEX mode you do it CONTROL ASSIGN/ FC-300 and all other modes you use the actual CCs in the CONTROL ASSIGN/ ASSIGN.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: rer801 on December 29, 2012, 05:26:36 PM
Brent:  IT WORKED!!!!!  THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!

I think I understand it now, too.  I can be SO dense sometimes, but I think I get it now.

Again, many thanks for your assistance and patience.

Ron
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on December 29, 2012, 05:40:45 PM
Quote from:  rer801 on December 29, 2012, 05:26:36 PM
Brent:  IT WORKED!!!!!  THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!

I think I understand it now, too.  I can be SO dense sometimes, but I think I get it now.

Again, many thanks for your assistance and patience.

Ron
Great! Let us know if you need anything else.  :)
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: dannybagpipes on June 25, 2013, 05:43:30 PM
Can the FC-300 in combination with the VG-99 assign two effects to one expression pedal?

I have drive as the effect on the expression pedal 1.  I would like it to switch to wah when pressing exp pedal 1 switch.  Please help me do this if it's possible!
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on June 25, 2013, 06:52:59 PM
This can be done but you may want to get your other problem out of the way first.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: dannybagpipes on June 27, 2013, 08:49:55 PM
Ok, thanks, I got the wah to work.  Now I would like exp 1 to be drive, then switch to wah.  How can this be done?  Thanks in advance, this site rocks!

DAn
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on June 28, 2013, 12:42:19 PM
Quote from:  dannybagpipes on June 27, 2013, 08:49:55 PM
Ok, thanks, I got the wah to work.  Now I would like exp 1 to be drive, then switch to wah.  How can this be done?
Exp pedal 1 can have multiple targets to control, now if it is practical to do so is a matter of opinion. Could you explain exactly how you would want the pedal to work controlling "drive" and "wah"?
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: dannybagpipes on June 29, 2013, 05:27:11 PM
I would like to have exp pedal 1 control the drive from 0 to 60 of an overdrive pedal.  Then I want to be able to switch exp pedal 1 to control wah by pressing the exp pedal switch.  I would like the wah to be in the treble position when the switch is depressed and it would have to be in the treble position to change back to drive - just like any old crybaby wah.  I use exp pedal 2 for volume control. 
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on June 29, 2013, 05:57:31 PM
Here is a patch that has Drive on the first half travel of Exp 1 and Wah on the second half or toe side. If you want to overlap them go to FC-300/Exp Pedal 1 and set the range down from 60 where I have it set now. Then go to ASSIGN/ASSIGN 9 (this is controlling the drive) and set the upper range above 60 as much as you want them to overlap.

I just took a patch of mine and added the controller for overdrive to it and set the ranges to show you how it would be done. Hope this helps and let me know if you have any questions.  :)
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: dannybagpipes on July 02, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
Brent,

Thanks for your help and the patch, you rock!  I have been working on this for several hours to be respectful of your time instead of just posting right away when getting stuck.

The only thing I would like to change from the patch is that I basically want the drive to be independent of the wah.

Ultimately, I would like the drive to stay fixed when the Wah is on.  Is that possible?  I think this is an accurate description of what I'm going after:

Exp Pedal 1 off: control drive only with EXP Pedal 1
Exp Peda1 1 on: control wah only, with the drive at a fixed value (say 60%), or if for some reason the drive has to be on, at an active range that is different from when Exp Pedal 1 is off, say a very low active range like 0-5 so it basically is at 60% and not changing while the wah is sweeping.

Even if the above is not possible, you are helping me to learn this unit much better.  Thank you very much!
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on July 02, 2013, 08:57:48 PM
Quote from:  dannybagpipes on July 02, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
The only thing I would like to change from the patch is that I basically want the drive to be independent of the wah.
The way I saved the patch above, the DRIVE and WAH do work independent of each other in that the WAH only works on the top half of the pedal range and the DRIVE works on the bottom half of the pedal range. So when you toe down the drive maxes out at 60% and then the toe switch turns the WAH on. The WAH range goes through it's full range on the top half of the pedal movement. As long as you don't lower the pedal below half way the drive will stay at 60%. But if you do go below half the WAH will not change from it's lowest sound but the drive will start decreasing. There is really no way to leave the drive on but not control it once you assign it as a target. One could have the drive turn off when the toe switch is depress for the WAH but I did not think that is what you wanted.
Quote from:  dannybagpipes on July 02, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
Ultimately, I would like the drive to stay fixed when the Wah is on.  Is that possible?  I think this is an accurate description of what I'm going after:

Exp Pedal 1 off: control drive only with EXP Pedal 1
Exp Peda1 1 on: control wah only, with the drive at a fixed value (say 60%), or if for some reason the drive has to be on, at an active range that is different from when Exp Pedal 1 is off, say a very low active range like 0-5 so it basically is at 60% and not changing while the wah is sweeping.

Even if the above is not possible, you are helping me to learn this unit much better.  Thank you very much!
I think if you study the settings I did for FC-300/EXP 1 in the CONTROL ASSIGN section and the ASSIGN/ASSIGN 9 in the CONTOL ASSIGN section you will see how the range is set 0-60 for the drive and 60-120 for the WAH. This splits the pedal range between the two. Let me know if this makes any sense to you, if not maybe I can answer the questions you have.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: dannybagpipes on July 03, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
I think i understand.  The drive will stay the same regardless of EXP Pedal SW 1.  Therefore, whatever the T Min and T Max are and Active Low and High will be the same whether Wah is on or not.  Since Wah is assigned to EXP Pedal SW 1 the Wah is what turns on or off based on the ON/OFF status of the EXP Pedal 1. 

Thank you very much for your help!
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: dannybagpipes on July 03, 2013, 08:53:26 PM
Just kidding, one last thing......

I would like the wah to be off, not just in the base position when when below the Active Low of 60.  On your patch and the patch I'm applying this method to - both are in the bass position - I just want no wah effect at all until crossing above the active low and up to the active high.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Brent Flash on July 03, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
I am not sure what you mean by "I would like the wah to be off, not just in the base position when below the Active Low of 60." I have it set so that the toe switch of EXP 1 turns the WAH on and off. The WAH only changes on the upper half of the pedal movement when it is ON and while you are in the upper half of the pedal range the DRIVE does not change. When you are in the lower half of the pedal range the WAH does not change but the drive does. If you don't want the WAH you will have to turn it off with the toe switch. Or we could set the lower range to turn the WAH off but that would likely cause some difficulty with the WAH by accidentally turning it off on occasion when you over shoot the lower threshold.
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Weed_ on July 30, 2013, 12:01:44 PM
Hello!

Is there a way to assign the FC300 Expression 2Sw to turn the wah on and turn FV level off?
Means, I have the volume pedal when Expression 2Sw is deactivated and way when activated?

If I understand it right, the expression toe switch does not affect the expression pedal, it is just a switch as any other that can be used to turn on and off the assigned effects?
I mean, could you let's say assign expression pedal 1 to controls speed of leslie and when you activate the toe switch, instead of speed controls the depth? Or it could only turn the leslie off but still be changing the speed of leslie?

Hope that questions make sens :).

Thanks!
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: fokof on August 02, 2013, 08:07:44 AM
A controller parameter cannot change another controller's parameter.  :P


In the situation you are describing you could:
-assign a leslie in both M1 and M2 and make them identical


EDIT: -Assign Leslie speed of M1 and depth of M2 to Pedal 1


-On the pedal sw , assign M1 to on M2 to off so it switch between both

Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Smash on April 09, 2015, 01:56:46 PM
As per title - when I use the EXP1 on the FC300 it only has to come into contact with the rubber stop lightly and it activate the EXP1 switch.

EXP2 switch is fine and needs a good healthy amount of pressure to activate but EXP1 has almost become a proximity detector!

I'm guessing I'm gonna have to pull the pedal apart? Is there a monetary switch hidden behind the block of rubber? Just wondering whether it's got partially stuck

Appreciate any thoughts before I go tearing in there :)
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Elantric on April 09, 2015, 01:59:01 PM
Time for a recalibration of your FC300 Expression pedals

Be sure to perform this procedure on the same type floor surface you typically use the FC300.

Avoid Carpeted floor.

Read the FC300 Manual page 56
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=30.0 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=30.0)

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Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Smash on April 10, 2015, 07:13:05 AM
Ah....that's what comes of buying a used FC300, no manual!

That is brilliant, thanks Elantric. I'll recalibrate both as you say. Gonna be interesting how they "feel" after this.

Many thanks  :)
Title: Re: FC300 - Expression pedels not working correctly
Post by: Smash on April 10, 2015, 11:31:05 AM
Perfect - work a treat. "Normality restored 1:1"