GP-10 - Anybody smarter than me ever figure out the missing Slow Gear problem?

Started by Rhcole, October 25, 2016, 04:12:20 PM

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Rhcole

When the GP-10 first came out I noted the significant omission of the Slow Gear effect. It significantly limits many of the synths and also the modeled guitars as far as useful synth and modeling effects. I revisited this recently, trying to mimic the Slow Gear with reverb and echo delays. Not a very good result.

Anybody else figured a way to fake this effect?
Yes, I know the foot pedal can do this and also the Osc synth. I'm looking for a hidden knob in one of the FX or something.
Anybody?

carlb

The closest I've found is the fretless model. The attack control does a bit of the slow-gear, and on a per-string basis.

Drives an EHX Key 9 and C 9 really well, probably other EHX pedals too.
ES Les Paul, internal Roland GK
Boss SY-1000, Valeton Coral Amp pedal
Morningstar MC8 & MC6
QSC CP8 powered speaker

Rhcole

Hey, that's a good suggestion CarlB, I'll give it a try!
Why no pitch shift for Wave synths or Slow Gear, c'mon Roland.
But that's just the way they roll.

carlb

Hmmmm. Apparently, the Poly-FX of the GP-10 has a per-string slow-gear option, too. Might be more "slow" than the fretless model. I haven't had a chance to try it yet.
ES Les Paul, internal Roland GK
Boss SY-1000, Valeton Coral Amp pedal
Morningstar MC8 & MC6
QSC CP8 powered speaker

sixeight

I don't like the slow gear poly effect of the GP10.  It adds some pitch shifted harmonics that do not sound right to me.

I did get a better result with the OS synth: https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=15081.msg107776#msg107776

Rhcole

Carlb,

I don't see the Slow Gear for Poly FX- could you share a screenshot?


Elantric

I suspect he means Poly FX:  "Slow Pad"
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I don't like the slow gear poly effect of the GP10

sixeight

Quote from: Elantric on October 29, 2016, 11:28:23 AM
I suspect he means Poly FX:  "Slow Pad"

Yes,  that is the one. I never use it,  so I forgot what it was called...

Rhcole

Sure, the Slow Pad is REALLY slow but you can't change its attack. Sixeight I like your string patch. You can change harmonics in the Slow Pad somewhat FWIW.

aliensporebomb

Or you could always swell into every note with your GK Volume knob.  Lots of manual effort but....
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GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

gumtown

How about a stab at a CTL pedal to instantly minimise the level and have it rise slowly back to normal.

Using an assign, with Internal Pedal, triggered by CTL, with a slow rise curve, controlling patch volume or normal PU level,
or if you are daring, control the amp gain.
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Kenmac

I realize this is primarily hardware related but if you do use the GP-10 with your Mac or PC there's a free plugin available called "AutoSwell Light" in VST and AU format which does a great job of simulating the Boss slow gear pedal. You can check it out here: http://pechenegfx.blogspot.ca/2015/06/autoswell-light-new-audio-effect-in-vst.html
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roachone

Went to download, my security says there is a computer virus in this download. BEWARE!

Kenmac

Quote from: roachone on January 12, 2017, 06:03:34 PM
Went to download, my security says there is a computer virus in this download. BEWARE!
I think you're getting a false positive. I've been using this plugin for awhile now. Which anti-virus software are you using?
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roachone

avast. ok, seems nobody has a fried computer yet, so I'll try it. Thanks

N01seMaker

My solution to this problem was to drag out my old Line 6 DL-4 and use the Auto-Volume Echo mode in 3 different patches to give me 3 different attacks (quasi-fretless, cello-ish, new-age-synth). I wasn't able to find anything on the GP-10 that measured up to the old COSM Slow Gear model on my ancient GT-6, unfortunately.  :(

Rhcole

Conclusion several months later- GP-10 can't do it won't do it nah nah nah.

nix808

it sounds like you need a hexaphonic auto-wah,
but on volume, not frequency.
Otherwise, any synth has attack?
Just going by you guys talking about this sound
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aliensporebomb

My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.