VG-99 Accessories

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Elantric

VG-99 Accessories

Manuals to the Stand, the Case and the Rack Adapter.


Spare Power Supply for VG-99

Roland / Boss PSB-1U Power Supply   $37

http://underbid.com/action/display/item/11957-1059262004/sku/BOSPSB1U.html


Heinzibua

I still go for the Roland APC-33 (all purpose clamp).
Since I don't use use the VG-99 controllers I put it at the lower end of my micro stand.
The clamp fits perfect for the VG-99.

http://www.roland.com/products/en/APC-33/index.html

hausmann

Same here.  I just happened to have one lying around, attached to an old, busted up Octapad.  Clamps on nicely to a sturdy cymbal stand.
-Eric
I wanna join your band
erichausmann.bandcamp.com

Elantric

#3
The APC-33 clamp is basically identical to the the top portion of the PDS-10.- interesting.

edit -

no its a bit different - good to know this works:

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--ROLAPC33


Elantric

#4
Spare Ferrite Core

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=421681

EMI SUPPRESSION CORE,FERRITE,
EMI Suppression Cores with Case

# Reduce Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI) with a snap of these suppression cores around a power cord or data cord. Easy to install and an affordable way to reduce EMI without redesigning your product.Size: 1.30"L x .70"W x .77"H
# Color: Black

Jameco P/N    421681
Mfg    STEWARD,INC.
Mfg #    28A2025-0A2

$1.85 Ea

Elantric


Elantric

Add 2 more Expression pedals:

http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?SKU=R0011412X&ovchn=FRO&ovcpn=FROOGLE&ovcrn=R0011412X&ovtac=CMP

Rocktron  MIDI Xchange Controller Pedal $89

The MIDI Xchange is a simple to use, yet multi-functional MIDI switcher that not only controls Rocktron products, but other MIDI switchable products as well. Two built-in expression ports allow you to plug in up to two Rocktron HEX expression/volume controllers for continuous controlling of all sorts of parameters.
A great feature of the MIDI Xchange is that it runs on a 9-volt battery, as well as external power. Thus, if you are doing a gig where it is hard to run power out to your floor pedals ? you won?t have any problem with the MIDI Xchange as battery operation will allow you to make the preset controller changes you need. And, the MIDI Xchange is also phantom powerable through select Rocktron processors and amplifiers.

A three segment display shows you the preset you are on or which controller assignment has been selected. A power switch is provided to turn on or off the MIDI Xchange. Upon turning on the unit, the display will flash the number "1" at which point you may either press the RECALL switch to select preset "1" or use the UP and DOWN buttons to select the desired preset number ? then press the RECALL button to choose the selected preset.

The MIDI Xchange provides "SMART CONTROLLERS" not commonly seen in low-cost MIDI footswitches. What are SMART CONTROLLERS? Typically with most MIDI footcontrollers, when using continuous controller pedals the "status" of the pedals are not reported when a new preset command has been sent. This would most likely cause a discontinuity in volume requiring the user to step on his volume pedal to correct the change, thus updating the pedal status manually. The MIDI Xchange issues "current status" of both controller pedal ports upon the recall program change command being sent out. Also, auto enable of these controller messages are detected when any of the two ports have a pedal attached to them. Everything is handled by the MIDI Xchange for ease of use!

An example of this would be ? when you reduce the volume of preset 1 with an expression pedal ? when switching to preset 2, unlike other typical MIDI controllers, the MIDI Xchange will automatically detect the position of the pedal and apply that to the volume of preset 2 ? thus no loud or abrupt volume changes. This is ideal in a live situation.

The MIDI Xchange has two SMART CONTROLLER PORTS labeled CC17 and CC7. (CC stands for Continuous Controller). The CC17 port is the default volume controller for all Rocktron products. Thus, all you need to do to control the volume of each preset is plug an expression pedal into this port and it will control the volume on all Rocktron products. The CC7 port is the default volume controller for most non-Rocktron products. Note ? the use of these controller numbers are not exclusive ? by programming the receiving units (Rocktron processors or other non-Rocktron processors) controller assignments you could assign controller 17 or 7 to control various different parameters.

mos6507

I'm still waiting for the rack adapter!

Michael Dolan Doubleneck
Les Paul Custom

VG-99
FTP

Elantric

Did you order it yet?
It will be a custom order item from any Roland Dealer.

mos6507

You aren't going to just be able to order it online?  That's a drag.
Michael Dolan Doubleneck
Les Paul Custom

VG-99
FTP

Elantric

Its for sale online Only in the UK.

Contact Jon@altomusic.com for a good price
You will have to prepay

http://www.altomusic.com/


Other source
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

vanceg

#11
Quote from: sustainiac on March 06, 2008, 02:00:04 PM
Cheap EV-5 Expression pedal alternative $29
M-Audio-EX-P-Expression-Pedal
http://www.guitarcenter.com/M-Audio-EX-P-Expression-Pedal-150360-i1124282.gc?source=4WFRWXX&CAWELAID=92187547


I purchased 4 of these for use with the VG-99 and find that they do not work at all with the VG-99.  It appears to me that the resistance on the pot inside the pedal is not what the VG-99 is looking for. Without replacing the pots, i don't see a good way around this.

(it would be NICE if the FC-300 allowed users to calibrate it's expression pedal inputs to accept a variety of pots!)

has anyone else had confirmed success with these?


Elantric

#12
bummer!

Can you take on ohm meter and  read the pot value?

Is it  10k ohm ?

Perhaps I can show you how to make them work.

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=33.msg109#msg109

vanceg

Quote from: sustainiac on March 07, 2008, 03:06:48 PM
bummer!

Can you take on ohm meter and  read the pot value?

Is it  10k ohm ?

Perhaps I can show you how to make them work.

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=33.msg109#msg109

2K, I suspect ,but I'm not near them. I will check that out later.  Trying to use these is what lead to my noticing that there is no way to calibrate pedals on the FC-300....

.  I could mess with them, solder a resister in there, but why?  I just went back to using my 4 Roland pedals. the reason I wanted these was to save on not having to use "y" type cables to go from my roland volume pedals to the FC300.  I am now using them for other purposes.


vanceg

The pot says 12K. Measuring shows 12.9K and 1.1K at the pedals Heel and Toe points.

Vance


Quote from: sustainiac on March 07, 2008, 03:06:48 PM
bummer!

Can you take on ohm meter and  read the pot value?

Is it  10k ohm ?

Perhaps I can show you how to make them work.

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=33.msg109#msg109

Elantric

Re-Wire the Pot it to a stereo cable like the attached pic





vanceg

Quote from: sustainiac on March 09, 2008, 08:23:40 PM
Re-Wire the Pot it to a stereo cable like the attached pic


It is using a stereo cable and I THINK that is exactly the way it is wired.



Elantric

#17
Sliding Rack Drawer used for rack mounting VG-99 - simply slide out for use.

(Hint - Its tucked in at the Very TOP!)

and sitting on a shelf with kitchen slides from the local building supply ( Home Depot type store) .

http://forums.audiofanzine.com/index,idtopic,310143,forum,un_vg99_avec_8_sorties_photos_et_samples_inside.html

szilard

For mounting a Roland MDP-7U will work as well. I adapted one to mount an SPD 6 to a Roto Tom stand, but it would work with a multi clamp as well. I put a bolt thru it and added a couple nuts ...

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MDP7/


rdomain

I can't justify the price of the RAD99 rackmounter.  It's ridiculous!  The bag is expensive but not out of control.  What sort of prices can you get both of these for in the US?

And re: the bag.  Is there room for cables etc when using it to carry the vg99 and fc300?  I'm getting close to buying one as the baag I'm using isn't ideal.

Brent Flash

Quote from: rdomain on July 15, 2008, 08:42:10 AM
I can't justify the price of the RAD99 rackmounter.  It's ridiculous!  The bag is expensive but not out of control.  What sort of prices can you get both of these for in the US?

And re: the bag.  Is there room for cables etc when using it to carry the vg99 and fc300?  I'm getting close to buying one as the baag I'm using isn't ideal.
I can answer the bag question. I find that there is enough room. I have the stand and had to get two bags. I still find it more convenient than lugging around an amp.

Elantric

Sliding Rack Drawers are $50 in the USA

I do not know anyone who has the VG-99 Rack kit in the USA - they are only sold online in Europe / UK

http://www.musikhaus-korn-shop.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=58092

rdomain

Thanks for the bag answer.  How much can you get the bag for in the US?  I'm in Australia.

And how do you attach the vg99 to the sliding rack draw and how many rack spaces does it use?

vanceg

#23
Quote from: rdomain on July 15, 2008, 08:13:37 PM
Thanks for the bag answer.  How much can you get the bag for in the US?  I'm in Australia.

And how do you attach the vg99 to the sliding rack draw and how many rack spaces does it use?

There are 4 screws on the bottom of the VG99 that allow you to attach it to a base of some sort.

I attached it very nicely, and flush mounted it (very much like the official Roland device does, but more "gorilla" by just using a piece of plate metal and attaching to the rack using two different length screws, long ones near the "back" of the VG-99 and much shorter ones in the front. Basically the different length screws compensate for the fact that the VG-99 is slanted and allow the face plate to be flush with the rack.

That said, I have since decided to just mount it on the inside of my case which I turn into a table for my gigs...

Here is a crude photo of the rack that I mounted the VG-99 in. It's not very clear what I did from this photo, but trust me, the VG-99 fits really well in this rack and is flush with the rack....as if it is a "normal" piece of rack gear.  Look at the metal piece near the top of the rack - that was the one I was using for the VG-99 (the one of the bottom held a Lemur controller). You can just barely make out the screw holes for the VG-99 on the top piece.....


Maybe when I get a chance I can take a photo of the VG-99 mounted in this rack....that is, if the rack doesn't sell right away (it's currently for sale).  It fits the VG-99, more rack gear, the FC-300, 4 extra volume pedals, two extra footswitches and cables.  And rolls. 

Brent Flash

Quote from: rdomain on July 15, 2008, 08:13:37 PM
How much can you get the bag for in the US?  I'm in Australia.
Street price $99.