Hi all. I'm really enjoying my VG-99. Is there any way to print out a list of all of the patches stored in my VG-99 and their location? It's getting a bit confusing when I start moving them around. Thanks for your help and/or suggestions!
Are you using Librarian? Once you have "READ" all of your user patches you should be able to select all and copy and paste onto Word or your text editor of choice. Is that what you wanted to do?
FWIW, Theres a new Factory Preset pdf file here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28.0;attach=108
I dont think copy/paste is working like I thought it would. What type of computer are you using? Now that I think about it this was addressed a while ago at the yahoo user group. I will go back and look around. Stay tuned.
I think we were using "shift + print screen" paste into Wordpad, then Print.
Yup, thats what I just read. I guess its the only way to do it. >:(
Any programmers out there?
I would pay for a decent VG-99 librarian, the one we got now seems written by a first year SQL student who doesn't play guitar, and never had access to the Editor or the VG-99- which probably is the case.
well, I am a second year Java student. I havent really learned any other languages yet, but I am sure it can be done in Java. Let me take this to one of my professors and see what we can brainstorm. Might be worth extra credit! ;D What kind of features would you like to see? This could be fun and maybe I can get roland to license it.
Thanks for the replies. Yes, I was aware of the screen print method. But I was hoping for something a bit more sophisticated where I could export/copy from librarian and then import/display in MS-Word or MS-Excel.
Back when I had a Line 6 POD XT Pro there was a slick interface that someone built to export the patched list from the POD editor and then display the list in MS-Excel. Built in Visual Basic as I recall.
I'm obviously using a PC instead of a MAC.
Thanks everyone for your replies!
I like the Line6 Paradigm.
Download Line6 Edit - clone that interface as much as possible.
I'd like to see
* Export to XML
* Import to XML
* Drag & Drop re sorting of patches
* double click to open patch in the VG-99 Editor
* a no -brainer backup - restore function
I have developped a similar tool for the GT-8 a while ago : http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=134529
Once we'll have the MIDI implementation document for the 99, I could modify Geeboss to work with it...
What language was Geeboss written in?
It's written in Java so it's cross paltform.
It can run on both Windows and Mac.
Roland US was very non commital as to when a full VG-99 MIDI Spec would be published.
I attached the VG-88 MIDI spec, as I feel many aspects of the VG-99's MIDI spec will be similar.
It would be valuable to have the GT-Pro MIDI spec too, or the GT-8!
Searching the web I can only locate the VG-88's - as the closest doc to digest until we get our hands on the real VG-99 MIDI spec.
The GT-8 I have, it's also available on bossgtcentral forum : http://www.bossgtcentral.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=338
I'm surprised the 99's document is not available yet : back when the GT-8 was launched, Neil Tomlison, from Roland UK, could provide me with the document right after it was out....
We'd all appreciate if you have ANY leads on the VG-99 MIDI implementation.
Lets ask Neil Tomlison, from Roland UK.
As I said, Roland US indicated Roland Japan had not released it yet. Could be for a few reasons:
* It reveals too many hooks to features not implemented in the current editor - because they are buggy (auto riffer,Nylon noise suppressor)
* There is a future firmware release which adds so many new exciting features, which would nullify the existing MIDI implementation.
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You can try and email Neal (neal.tomlinson AT roland.co.uk) , but I did not get no answer to my previous mail about a month ago...
FWIW - Another GT-Pro Librarian - seems to be the basis for the VG-99 Librarian
http://www.rolandmusik.de/ftp/pub/downloads/sounds-der-helden/GT_librarian.zip
Sustainiac, are you being facetious with your second reason, or is it really possible we have many new exciting features coming our way?
No release date
no details
But Roland will very likely follow past behavior. (VG-8 S1, VG-88 V2)
I figure winter NAMM 2009
if we are lucky perhaps this summer
Spoke to Roland - those features did not make the final cut for the VG-99 firmware
Quote from: sustainiac on February 02, 2008, 11:25:00 AM
FWIW - Another GT-Pro Librarian - seems to be the basis for the VG-99 Librarian
http://www.rolandmusik.de/ftp/pub/downloads/sounds-der-helden/GT_librarian.zip
Absolutely : Roland / Boss always use the same communication protocol for their units. The GT-8 / GT-PRO librarian is exactly the same as the 99's.
From what I remember from my GT-8 prgramming time, the Midi communication frame looks like this :
F0h (SysEx)
41h (Manufacturer ID = Roland)
xxh (Devide ID = 00-1F in case you have several devices on your MIDI network)
xxh (Model ID MSB : 00h for GT-8)
xxh (Model ID LSB : 06h for GT-8)
xxh (Comand ID : can be RQ1 for request data from the unit or DT1 to send data to the unit)
Then you have the address bytes and data bytes, a checksum and finally an End Of File marker.
Basicly the librarian performs RQ1 commands to read patches from the unit and DT1 commands to send patches to the unit.
The only difference between the GT-8, GT-PRO or VG-99 librarians should be the value of the Model ID and the length and address of the patches.
heres a few test SMF MID files
Sustainiac, where did you get the images of the Lespaul and the Phrase Editor Panel ?
I can only find the Gretsh in my Editor's script dir...
The Phrase Editor could be a remain of the GT-Pro editor, but the unreleaed guitar bodies deffinitely are a good sign ;-)
Yes midi dumps are a good start point to reverse engineer the midi implementation.
We coud also use MIDI-OX to analyse the communication bettween the 99 and the Librarian or Editor.
http://www.midiox.com/ (http://www.midiox.com/)
>Elantric, where did you get the images of the Lespaul and the Phrase Editor Panel ?
They were in the bitmap folder of the Mac VG-99 Editor , version 1.00
there may be more stuff, i thought i recognized everything else - look on the cdrom that came with your vg-99. - i used MS photo Fax viewer to see the BMP files in the mac folder
I was told at namm debug work on the auto riff was terminated " since serious guitarists will never use it" .
So the VG-99 development team could focus efforts on more pressing pre-release bugs.
It just occurred to me that since we know where the picture files are, we can now 'paint' our own guitars.
Anyone game to have a try?
Here's a free Mac MIDI Monitor - could aid in debugging VG-99 MIDI Implementation
http://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/docs.html
cool, I will check it out. This may take me a while, I am still learning this stuff. ???
FWIW - Attached is a VG-88 Patch Organizer from Nacho,
He states he will develop a VG-99 version - after he gets his own VG-99 .
Cool, I'll have to break out the old lappy to check this out. Thanks S, this will help.
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Let me give a few pointers.
When you first set up, you will want to read the entire VG-99 memory.
patch mode read all.
and if you have your system set up and the other categories read them also.
Once you have done that go to File/Export SMF/All Data. This will save the
entire memory.
Then go to File/Duplicate and save the new window as a file.
This will get you going. Now when you open the Librarian next time you can go to
File/Import SMF and load the ALL DATA file you saved in the first step. This
will keep you
from having to read the entire memory every time you open Librarian. When you
make a
change save the file again.
I will stop here to see if we have any question so far.
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Printing Patches
in the VG-99 Librarian, you can select a font and its size.
Now maximize your window and make a screen-shot.
Open and print the image with your image-edit-software .
Voila! OK, you have to repeat the procedure a few times
if you have a long list...
Cheers,
George
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> Well, they should still get us an upgraded editor,
> so that we can PRINT OUT our latest patch list !
I don't actually have a VG-99 yet, so pardon me if I've misunderstood
the problem. But I assume you just want a simple numbered list of the
patch names in a library. I wrote a simple Windows program this
morning to do just that. You can download it here:
http://microrecorders.org/64guitars/software/VG-99_Patch_Lister_v1.01.zip (http://microrecorders.org/64guitars/software/VG-99_Patch_Lister_v1.01.zip)
It's very easy to use:
- Save your patch library in a ".g9l" file.
- Click the Open button in VG-99 Patch List and select your .g9l file.
The patch list will be displayed
- Click the Copy button in VG-99 Patch List. This copies the entire
list to the Windows clipboard.
- Open any Word Processor, text editor, etc. and paste the list into a
document. You can then apply any fonts or formatting you wish to the
list and print it out.
Version 1.01 of VG-99 Patch List for Windows is now available:
http://microrecorders.org/64guitars/software/VG-99_Patch_Lister_v1.01.zip (http://microrecorders.org/64guitars/software/VG-99_Patch_Lister_v1.01.zip)
This version fixes a bug that caused it to list garbage at the end of
some patch lists. It also adds a Print button with preview. And a
status bar displays the name of the currently loaded file.
- 64Guitars
I hope that solves the problem.
I forgot to mention that you can also select only part of the list, if
desired, by highlighting the desired text with the mouse or cursor
keys. Then right-click on the list and select Copy from the context
menu to put just the highlighted text into the clipboard (or press
Ctrl-C on the keyboard). Don't click the Copy button as it will cancel
the selection and copy the entire list. Use the context menu instead
or press Ctrl-C to copy just the selection.
Also, the patch list window is a basic text editor. So you can add or
delete any text you like before you copy it to the clipboard. Of
course, you're going to paste it into a word processor or editor
anyway, so you might find it just as easy to do your editing there.
- 64Guitars
- 64Guitars
You can also paste it into a spreadsheet.
***** CALLING ALL MAC PROGRAMMERS ****
> Thanks on behalf all those (otherwise suffering) Windoze users,
Sorry, I don't have access to a Mac. If there are any Mac programmers
on this list who'd like to create a similar VG-99 Patch List Print utility program for Mac users, it
should be very easy to do. Here's a simple loop in C that extracts the
patch names from the .g9l library file:
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------
fptr = fopen(g9lFilename, "rb");
fseek(fptr, 172, 0); // skip 172-byte header
// Read patch records at 3,222 bytes each
// First 16 bytes of each record is the patch name
char PatchName[17] ; // 16 characters plus a null terminator
while( fread(PatchName, 16, 1, fptr) )
{
PatchName[16] = '\0'; // null-terminate
// print PatchName here or add it to a
// string list for later processing
fseek(fptr, 3206, 1); // skip remainder of 3222-byte patch record
};
fclose(fptr) ;
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------
Feel free to use this and adapt it to your own program for the Mac,
Linux, or whatever.
- 64Guitars
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OK, if anyone would like to give a Mac VG-99 Patch Lister a try, go
here:
http://www.jacklinstudios.com/software
And click on the link for the VG99Lister link.
It's super-trivial, and all it does it list the names. It does not
print, nor does it create text files or anything. You can select
patches (or not, in which case it acts on all patches) and Copy, and
then open up TextEdit (or whatever) and Paste.
Let me know if you find anything that doesn't work.
kelly
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A trivial app to parse a VG-99 .g9l patch list file, and show the names of the patches. User can then select those, and copy/paste into a text (or other) file in another app
I am sorry, I knew this at one time.
HOW do you print a list of all presets in your VG-99?
Its clean up time again and it would help to have a printed page in front of me.
Thanks,
Bill
Thanks Steve.
All the files do not work here on windows 7 64 bit.
I may need to just screen grab sections and print.
Ugly but will work kind-of.
OR
Just do it in front of the VG-99 which makes the most sense!!
Quote from: Elantric
Its detailed in the VG-99 Top things to know thread here:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=13.msg19#msg19 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=13.msg19#msg19)
** Print all your VG-99 Patches - use these custom Utilities created for YOU by VGuitar Forum Members.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=381.0 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=381.0)
Thanks again Steve.
It seems its a no go for 64 bit.
What I do is this - it's complicated and not ideal, but it's something that works on 32 or 64 bits. Note, this is on a Mac OS X computer.
-Power on your VG-99 with it connected to your computer via USB.
-Load the VG-99 librarian.
-Under mode select Patch
-Select under "Read" "All"
-Wait a good long while. Wait some more. You get the idea.
-Depending on the height of your screen, you will be able to see about 50 patches at a time.
-On a Mac OS X system use the "Grab" utility to highlight as many patches as you can.
-Export to a .TIFF and save to the desktop.
-Launch Preview and use that to print the file you saved.
Here's an un-edited grab of some of mine so you can see the result.
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmadsound.dyndns.org%2Fgk.jpg&hash=d2c5b129abc1e4d436fb13a75857294f6db11039)
Thanks
That is what I did.
I am now in photoshop to put them together to print.
YIKES
Thats a lot a work.
i used pen and paper to do this a few days ago. should have checked here.
Hi aliensporebomb
I had a look at your patchlist posted above.
Under 066 you have got a VOLLENWEIDER patch.
I'm very interested how you managed to get a good harp patch with the VG99.
Can you post it, please?
Quote from: papabuss on May 28, 2012, 11:43:23 AM
Hi aliensporebomb
I had a look at your patchlist posted above.
Under 066 you have got a VOLLENWEIDER patch.
I'm very interested how you managed to get a good harp patch with the VG99.
Can you post it, please?
Sorry about the long delay, I didn't see your request. It's in the patch library already - it wasn't mine but I used it on a track from "this is aliensporebomb" as intro, it was supposed to be a longer piece (maybe it will someday):
See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWx1nbKc5Mc
That track uses the Vollenweider patch.
Hi there, fairly new to the VG-99 and figuring it all out. I have been able to upload the various drivers and software and muddle my way through backing up my system (thank you to all who contributed their methods over the years!).
I have searched this subject and read through the entire thread that speaks to it, with no luck. The links are no longer working for the software that was previously developed by forum members. So other than pencil to paper, is there a way to copy/paste the main library list of all my patches? I have tried the standard (and not so standard!) methods of copy/paste into Word, to no avail.
If there is a way to do this, it would be most helpful... thank you!
Rand
Here is VG99Lister but requires WinXP (see attached file link is at bottom of this post)
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=141.msg1495#msg1495
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=141.0;attach=374
Mac OSX version
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=141.0;attach=384
And you can always use the VG-99 Librarian and AlienSporeBombs's technique here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=141.msg42003#msg42003
What I do is this - it's complicated and not ideal, but it's something that works on 32 or 64 bits. Note, this is on a Mac OS X computer.
-Power on your VG-99 with it connected to your computer via USB.
-Load the VG-99 librarian.
-Under mode select Patch
-Select under "Read" "All"
-Wait a good long while. Wait some more. You get the idea.
-Depending on the height of your screen, you will be able to see about 50 patches at a time.
-On a Mac OS X system use the "Grab" utility to highlight as many patches as you can.
-Export to a .TIFF and save to the desktop.
-Launch Preview and use that to print the file you saved.
Here's an un-edited grab of some of mine so you can see the result.
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmadsound.dyndns.org%2Fgk.jpg&hash=d2c5b129abc1e4d436fb13a75857294f6db11039)