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Boss SY-300 Guitar Synth => Boss SY-300 General Discussion => Topic started by: sebavitale on November 14, 2017, 05:27:03 AM

Title: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: sebavitale on November 14, 2017, 05:27:03 AM
is there any way I can import patches from gr 33 or other synths?

and.... aside of the patch exchanges which is amazing... any link for patch download?

I am interested in normal instruments (flute, trumpet, rhodes, etc etc etc)

thanks!

Title: Re: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: admin on November 14, 2017, 07:35:44 AM
Introduce yourself here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?board=44.0

and the Patch downloads will be visible
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=16694.0
Title: Re: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: shawnb on November 14, 2017, 08:29:42 AM
Don t think there is any way to import those old gr33 patches.  You can audit the settings and try to duplicate them. 

The sy300 isn't a pcm sample based synth like the gr33.  It's a completely different approach. 
Title: Re: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: sebavitale on November 14, 2017, 08:39:02 AM
thank you...

maybe you can advice me and I am going to repost this on a general page..

I play classic guitar, nylon string, I travel insanely. I am trying to find the best "nomad set up". my solution so far was:

get the boss sy300 and travel without the guitar.. buy an amplified (or travel with a piezo) classic guitar at any flea market and voila..

i just discovered thanks to this forum about the tripleplay and its app...

or even the tonewood app connected to phone or ipad midi apps....

I am a little bit confused..

my goal is to travel light and have a midi system that can allow me to play and perform solo, the system should have decent sounds (or easy to add patches..) and a good and fast polyphonic response....

help and advices are very much appreciated!!
Title: Re: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: Brak(E)man on November 14, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
I would recommend jamorigin MidiGuitar either on iPad or MacBook along with the software synths you would like to use and a travel guitar of your choice.
Title: Re: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: gumtown on November 14, 2017, 10:15:56 PM
Quote from: sebavitale on November 14, 2017, 08:39:02 AM
I play classic guitar, nylon string,
This will limit your options, any GK setup will not work, requiring steel strings to operate the magnetic pickups.
This includes the Fishman Triple play system.
Only a GK 13pin piezo hexaphonic pickup system will work on a nylon acoustic for Roland GK PCM synth sounds.

The SY-300 does not play 'PCM instrument sampled' sounds, it is more like a 1970's style analog synth type of sounds.

Nylon acoustic with pickup, and the Jamorigin app on an iPad or PC/Mac laptop would be the way to go as recommended by Brak(e)man.
Title: Re: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: sebavitale on November 15, 2017, 03:57:27 AM
thank you !

anyone used the jam origin on ipad? some reviews are great others recommend it on a laptop only..
Title: Re: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: Brak(E)man on November 15, 2017, 04:06:10 AM
According to unfretted.com theres a nylon string set with a metal core that works with gk.
Title: Re: SY-300 - patch import from gr 33 or other synth?!
Post by: admin on November 15, 2017, 05:28:22 AM
Quote from: Brak(E)man on November 15, 2017, 04:06:10 AM
According to unfretted.com theres a nylon string set with a metal core that works with gk.

Correct

Details here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=670.msg160002#msg160002

Many ask if they can install a GK-3 hex PU on a Nylon String Classical guitar


(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91r62yYZ30L._SL1500_.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91hrFA0ztJL._SL1500_.jpg)

Thomastik-Infeld KR116 strings work  - these are strings that can be installed on a Classical Guitar and also works with all magnetic pickups 
https://www.amazon.com/Thomastik-Infeld-KR116-Classical-Guitar-Strings/dp/B00162VU7I
QuoteQuestion: can these strings be used with a magnetic pickup?
Yes they can. The strings have a steel rope core. I believe there is a jazz player who uses these on his electric guitar. These strings have great timbral consistency from low to high. Usually there is a stark difference between the d and g, not so much with these strings.


https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1209752
Hurdle is the string spacing of most Classic guitars is much wider than the FTP or GK-3 pickup
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8612.0
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Or consider a laptop running Jam Origin MIDI Guitar
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=7530.0
https://youtu.be/N-WwEnowU2A