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Offline JiveTurkey

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #975 on: November 23, 2016, 07:44:22 PM »

Bill Ruppert Profiled his VG-99
I would love to know his steps in doing so. I followed the instructions and got a clean tone instead of the funky brass preset I was working with lol  :'(

When I a/B'd the captured profile and referenced "amp"; the referenced amp sounded exactly as it normally does. I know the Kemper isn't made to do what I tried to make it do. Good practice if nothing else.

Offline whippinpost91850

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #976 on: November 23, 2016, 10:47:14 PM »
Katana , may sound decent . But it's like comparing apples and oranges. In my humble oppinion
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 11:04:40 PM by whippinpost91850 »

Offline whippinpost91850

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #977 on: November 23, 2016, 10:47:59 PM »
Yes

Online scratch17

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #978 on: January 23, 2017, 12:50:24 PM »
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Offline whippinpost91850

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #979 on: January 23, 2017, 04:52:17 PM »
They are here and are fabulous. I wish I had more of a use for them. Playing live I only get a little use now

Online Elantric

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #980 on: June 23, 2017, 03:28:56 PM »
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/simple-lightweight-clean-amp-for-use-with-modeler-still-powerful-enough-for-use-on-stage.1814695/page-3
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Follow up on using katana 100 as active speaker:

Yesterday I carried my Kemper and Katana100 at reharsal and HOLY S#*T!!!
I used the preset I made on acoustic mode+parametricEQ, turned cab character all the way to -5 and used full Kemper profiles including CAB section.

Great sounds, wide ranges and the cabs make all the difference in the world.
Loudness was amazing, 100w mode was too much I switched to 50w mode, master at 11o'clock, volume&gain at noon, kemper master volume @6,5.(we play hard&heavy covers with loud drumming)

Amazing with Kemper full profiles, amazing on its own but will have to try more OK Katana alone( target of the experiment was to make Katana100 as close as I can to a Frfr)

Offline thebrushwithin

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #981 on: June 24, 2017, 12:12:40 AM »
Another post there:

"very well gents, I did some more tweaking to make it work as almost a FRFR speaker

ALL OF THIS IS AIMED TO USE THE PROFILES WITH CAB SECTION OF THE KEMPER-->BOSS KATANA INPUT -->ACOUSTIC MODE/CHANNEL
(going into return of the amp is easy and great sounding, but you miss the cabs of your profiles)


I started tweaqing the eq section in acoustic mode and did not seem to achieve anything close to what I wanted ( had a yamaha studio monitor to compare), then I read again about this guy and noticed he had been tweaking a parametriq eq of the amp, which is one of the many virtual stomps you can program in the Katana chain, so I started tweaking, I got close enough with that, the image attached is to show the settings of katana'sparametric eq.

But still there was something quite not right, some high mids that I could not dial out, then playing with the cab section of the Kemper I found the sweet spot I was looking for: Character to be dialed out to -5 (far left).

I perfectly know that a FRFR powered speaker would be the proper and accurate way to go, but if you have one of those amazing Katana as a backup try this trick and tell me what do you think of it[​IMG]
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[img]very well gents, I did some more tweaking to make it work as almost a FRFR speaker

ALL OF THIS IS AIMED TO USE THE PROFILES WITH CAB SECTION OF THE KEMPER-->BOSS KATANA INPUT -->ACOUSTIC MODE/CHANNEL
(going into return of the amp is easy and great sounding, but you miss the cabs of your profiles)


I started tweaqing the eq section in acoustic mode and did not seem to achieve anything close to what I wanted ( had a yamaha studio monitor to compare), then I read again about this guy and noticed he had been tweaking a parametriq eq of the amp, which is one of the many virtual stomps you can program in the Katana chain, so I started tweaking, I got close enough with that, the image attached is to show the settings of katana'sparametric eq.

But still there was something quite not right, some high mids that I could not dial out, then playing with the cab section of the Kemper I found the sweet spot I was looking for: Character to be dialed out to -5 (far left).

I perfectly know that a FRFR powered speaker would be the proper and accurate way to go, but if you have one of those amazing Katana as a backup try this trick and tell me what do you think of it
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/simple-lightweight-clean-amp-for-use-with-modeler-still-powerful-enough-for-use-on-stage.1814695/page-2
« Last Edit: June 24, 2017, 12:18:32 AM by thebrushwithin »

Offline thebrushwithin

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #982 on: June 29, 2017, 08:33:58 PM »

Offline admsustainiac

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #983 on: July 05, 2017, 02:58:47 PM »
Kemper Beta 5.3 Firmware



Audio

added: Mix parameter in Treble Booster and Lead Booster
added: Ducking parameter, if Treble Booster or Lead Booster are used in stereo Modules changed: Mix control of Distortion effects improved. Level is unity at Mix 0%

changed: Direct Out/Send muted immediately, if Effect Loop gets deactivated changed: reduced latency of Pitch Shifter effects incl. Transpose
changed: sound of Formant Shifter improved in combination with Pitch Shifter effects changed: Freeze Formants in Pedal Pitch improved

changed: Freeze Formants option added in Pedal Vinyl Stop
changed: Formant Shift as continuous controller in Pedal Pitch not useful and obsoleted

User Interface

added: Remote supports Profiler Mode

added: new MIDI option “Pedals to MIDI” in System Settings enables pedal controllers CC#1, 4, 7, and 11 to be sent to two external MIDI devices, even if triggered by pedals connected to Profiler or Remote

added: Master Volume display reflecting all output volumes to better illustrate its functionality

added: with the new option “Signal LEDs Blue” in the System Settings the color of the Input and Output LEDs can be changed

added: new warning indicating MIDI buffer overflow, if too many program chances are received within too short time frame

added: Profiler doesn’t try to restore corrupted backup files
fixed: MIDI clock display stabilized
fixed: correct handling of Pedal Volume after Rig change, if “WahPedal to Volume” is enabled fixed: correct processing of MIDI controlling changes immediately following a program change fixed: logical conflicts between Morph Pedal and Morph Button
fixed: disabled Slots accidentally appear as enabled
fixed: Uno4Kemper conflict with relative addressing in Browser Mode

fixed: default Pitch if “WahPedal to Pitch” or “MorphPedal to Pitch” are activated. fixed: Tuner Mode exits Performance scrolling
fixed: erroneous Locking after Mode changes
fixed: erroneous Morphing of Slot 4 in Performance edit buffer after restar

fixed: polarity option for external switches gets ignored, if a pedal is configured
fixed: correct handling of “Delay on/off Tail” triggered via external switch
changed: “Power Amp On” instead of “Power Amp” in PowerHead and PowerRack Output Section changed: scale of Crystal Mix und Pitch Mix parameter changed to 0-100%

changed: option to display time on Remote on page Date and Time in System Settings (had been hidden feature before)


Online Elantric

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #985 on: July 13, 2017, 10:31:46 AM »
This working excellent as my Kemper Toaster bag

room for Kemper Toaster  and cables and gig accessories for one grab & go bag to head to record in the studio
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Offline lespauled

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #986 on: July 14, 2017, 12:55:23 PM »
My Kemper was delivered yesterday, and I am hurting today.  I played until my fingers hurt, then looked at the clock, and knew it wasn't going to be a good day at work.

The stock profiles on the Kemper are amazing.  The clarity of every profile is stunning, to say the least.  I'm only 7 hours into it, but I am completely loving this thing.

Offline jassy

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #987 on: July 14, 2017, 04:35:48 PM »
My Kemper was delivered yesterday, and I am hurting today.  I played until my fingers hurt, then looked at the clock, and knew it wasn't going to be a good day at work.

The stock profiles on the Kemper are amazing.  The clarity of every profile is stunning, to say the least.  I'm only 7 hours into it, but I am completely loving this thing.
Now try the amazing amount of musical and useful tones you get simply rolling your guitar volume pot up and down. Nothing can compare in the digital modeling domain.
And I agree in the stock profiles (AND in the rig exchange) there are already some very good ones.
Congratulations for your purchase.

Online Elantric

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #988 on: July 14, 2017, 05:25:59 PM »
Now try the amazing amount of musical and useful tones you get simply rolling your guitar volume pot up and down. Nothing can compare

same occurs with a Katana 100  - just sayin
« Last Edit: July 14, 2017, 05:27:59 PM by Elantric »

Offline jassy

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #989 on: July 14, 2017, 06:37:09 PM »
same occurs with a Katana 100  - just sayin
I have no plans to go for an amp atm, so Im impatient for they to port this new amp tech (katana) to the multi-effects units.

Offline snhirsch

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #990 on: July 15, 2017, 07:03:03 AM »
I have no plans to go for an amp atm, so Im impatient for they to port this new amp tech (katana) to the multi-effects units.

The porting actually went in the other direction.  All indications are that the Boss GT-001/100 sound engine was re-used in Katana.

Offline jassy

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #991 on: July 15, 2017, 07:19:11 AM »
The porting actually went in the other direction.  All indications are that the Boss GT-001/100 sound engine was re-used in Katana.
Maybe Im wrong but I think to have read that the katana algos where new and superior to the GT ones so were one step ahead.
I have a GP10 and while it has good amps IMO its not very close to the Kemper ones, neither in the dynamic area (i. e. controlling with the volume pot).

Offline snhirsch

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #992 on: July 15, 2017, 09:53:15 AM »
GP-10 != GT-100.  I believe the latter is a newer generation design.  But, I have never used a GT-001/100 so just going by what others have claimed about their sound.  At least one person uses a GT-100 with their Katana in four-cable mode to get more flexibility. 

The Katana power amplifier section (obviously not found in the floor units) has been designed to mimic the characteristics of overdriven tube amplifiers interacting with speakers, so even if the effects are exactly the same as the GT-001/100 that's not the entire story.

Offline whippinpost91850

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #993 on: July 15, 2017, 10:25:55 AM »
ENJOY IT, I've had mine 5 yrs and gig with it all the time... There are 1000's of free profiles on the rig exchange... don't forget to down load the free extra profiles from the Kemper site

Offline snhirsch

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #994 on: July 15, 2017, 01:10:38 PM »
I wish I could find someone in my area who owns a Kemper.  Very curious about the device, but no way am I going to make a purchase of that magnitude without having had my hands on one first.

Offline whippinpost91850

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #995 on: July 16, 2017, 05:04:05 PM »
Most us dealers like Sweerwater will give you 30 days to try it out

Offline snhirsch

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #996 on: July 17, 2017, 06:15:26 AM »
Most us dealers like Sweerwater will give you 30 days to try it out

Yes, I know.  But I'm just old-school enough to feel guilty about leveraging return policies as free trials. 

Offline whippinpost91850

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #997 on: July 17, 2017, 08:00:32 AM »
Yes. But with so few local dealers carrying certain products, you just have to :)

Offline snhirsch

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #998 on: July 17, 2017, 12:07:51 PM »
If I can find a stocking Kemper dealer in New England maybe I'll make a drive.  I went through this exact exercise when buying my JTV-69 Variax.  The nearest stocking dealer was in Boston (3.5 hour drive from me).  Made a day trip to GC and ended up buying it after an hour in their demo room.

Offline whippinpost91850

Re: Kemper Profiling amp- "amp clone" beyond modeling!
« Reply #999 on: July 17, 2017, 06:00:30 PM »
I think you'll like it a lot.. Good luck with finding a dealer with one in stock.  ;D

 

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